[Cialug]voip

Dave J. Hala Jr. dave at 58ghz.net
Thu Dec 6 09:16:15 CST 2007


Yeah, I meant kw...  At my house that would generate about 450-600 kw
hrs per month... 

On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 09:11 -0600, murraymckee at wellsfargo.com wrote:
> I believe your calculations are off a bit.  I think you meant a 1.8
> KILOwatt turban would be $15,000.  If you want to generate 1.8 MEGOwatts
> you're going to have to put in well over $1,000,000 and since the blades
> on will be longer than 50' you're going to need a tower in the 150' -
> 200' range.  The down side is that if you want a 1.8 MW generator you're
> going to have to put your order in soon as the lead time for getting a
> construction crew and generator delivery are both 24 - 36 months.
> 
> Murray McKee 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
> Behalf Of Dan Hockey
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:24 PM
> To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Cialug]voip
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Dave J. Hala Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:12 AM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug]voip
> 
> Ditch the diesel generator. Switch an lp/hydrogen generator.
> 
> Don't laugh, I have 10,000w diesel generator. It won't run the ac but it
> will run the furnace and a computer or two.
>   
> LP is easier to deal with. Nissan was experimenting(when I left)with
> hydrogen fired forklifts, the fuel tank was made like a large thermos 
> Bottle in order to keep it cold enough(and high pressure) to keep it in
> a
> liquid state. Lp is only ~200psi in order to keep it as a liquid.  
> 
> For $15,000 you can have a 1.8 megawatt wind generator with the
> inverter, 50ft tower and the electronics to tie it the grid at 240vac.
> Compliment that with a $26,000 solar array and a $15,000 hydrogen
> generator. Get $5,000 worth the marine batteries.  
> 
> Instead of hooking it to the grid and thereby subsidizing your local
> coal burning power plant, build your own little power grid to power your
> stuff. Use the excess electricity to charge the batteries and to produce
> hydrogen.  Store  the hydrogen in an lp tank. When there's no sun, use
> the hydrogen to run the generator. You can also use the hydrogen to heat
> your house.
> 
> This way the only thing you have to worry about is a lawn mower running
> over the coax cable that mediacom laid on the ground from the pole to
> the house.
> 
> 
> :) Dave
> 
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