[Cialug]voip

[murraymckee at wellsfargo.com]

I believe your calculations are off a bit.  I think you meant a 1.8
KILOwatt turban would be $15,000.  If you want to generate 1.8 MEGOwatts
you're going to have to put in well over $1,000,000 and since the blades
on will be longer than 50' you're going to need a tower in the 150' -
200' range.  The down side is that if you want a 1.8 MW generator you're
going to have to put your order in soon as the lead time for getting a
construction crew and generator delivery are both 24 - 36 months.

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-----Original Message-----
From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
Behalf Of Dan Hockey
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:24 PM
To: 'Central Iowa Linux Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Cialug]voip



-----Original Message-----
From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
Behalf
Of Dave J. Hala Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug]voip

Ditch the diesel generator. Switch an lp/hydrogen generator.

Don't laugh, I have 10,000w diesel generator. It won't run the ac but it
will run the furnace and a computer or two.
  
LP is easier to deal with. Nissan was experimenting(when I left)with
hydrogen fired forklifts, the fuel tank was made like a large thermos 
Bottle in order to keep it cold enough(and high pressure) to keep it in
a
liquid state. Lp is only ~200psi in order to keep it as a liquid.  

For $15,000 you can have a 1.8 megawatt wind generator with the
inverter, 50ft tower and the electronics to tie it the grid at 240vac.
Compliment that with a $26,000 solar array and a $15,000 hydrogen
generator. Get $5,000 worth the marine batteries.  

Instead of hooking it to the grid and thereby subsidizing your local
coal burning power plant, build your own little power grid to power your
stuff. Use the excess electricity to charge the batteries and to produce
hydrogen.  Store  the hydrogen in an lp tank. When there's no sun, use
the hydrogen to run the generator. You can also use the hydrogen to heat
your house.

This way the only thing you have to worry about is a lawn mower running
over the coax cable that mediacom laid on the ground from the pole to
the house.


:) Dave

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