[Cialug]voip

[Daniel A. Ramaley]

Hmm. I thought the 1.8 MW looked a bit off... if windmills were that 
cheap, they'd be going up a lot faster than they are already. If i 
could buy 1.8 MW of electrical generation capacity for only $15 000, i 
think that would be worth taking out a loan for and selling the excess 
to the power company.

How many kW hours does a "typical" residence use in a month, anyway?

On Thursday 06 December 2007 09:11, murraymckee at wellsfargo.com wrote:
>I believe your calculations are off a bit.  I think you meant a 1.8
>KILOwatt turban would be $15,000.  If you want to generate 1.8
> MEGOwatts you're going to have to put in well over $1,000,000 and
> since the blades on will be longer than 50' you're going to need a
> tower in the 150' - 200' range.  The down side is that if you want a
> 1.8 MW generator you're going to have to put your order in soon as
> the lead time for getting a construction crew and generator delivery
> are both 24 - 36 months.
>
>Murray McKee
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
>Behalf
>Of Dave J. Hala Jr.
>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:12 AM
>To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Cialug]voip
>
>Ditch the diesel generator. Switch an lp/hydrogen generator.
>
>Don't laugh, I have 10,000w diesel generator. It won't run the ac but
> it will run the furnace and a computer or two.
>
>LP is easier to deal with. Nissan was experimenting(when I left)with
>hydrogen fired forklifts, the fuel tank was made like a large thermos
>Bottle in order to keep it cold enough(and high pressure) to keep it
> in a
>liquid state. Lp is only ~200psi in order to keep it as a liquid.
>
>For $15,000 you can have a 1.8 megawatt wind generator with the
>inverter, 50ft tower and the electronics to tie it the grid at 240vac.
>Compliment that with a $26,000 solar array and a $15,000 hydrogen
>generator. Get $5,000 worth the marine batteries.
>
>Instead of hooking it to the grid and thereby subsidizing your local
>coal burning power plant, build your own little power grid to power
> your stuff. Use the excess electricity to charge the batteries and to
> produce hydrogen.  Store  the hydrogen in an lp tank. When there's no
> sun, use the hydrogen to run the generator. You can also use the
> hydrogen to heat your house.
>
>This way the only thing you have to worry about is a lawn mower
> running over the coax cable that mediacom laid on the ground from the
> pole to the house.
>
>:) Dave

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