[Cialug] Mac/Arm

[Jeffrey Ollie]

What's driving the switch to Macs? Personally I don't find the hardware
compelling enough to pay the Apple tax. But then I also run Linux on my
desktops so MacOS isn't a selling point for me either.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:33 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> Maybe the solution is to buy an intel powered iMac now, before they
> switch....and hope a solution comes up before that machine is end of
> life...
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 1:28 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
> > I was thinking about that too. It looks like there is an Arm  version of
> > RHEL 8 in the works, but I'm wondering what kind of can of worms that
> will
> > be. I'm wondering will the entire LAMP stack and all the weird little
> apps
> > I use still run on ARM?   Then we are back to breaking the old thing of
> > "Dev Environment Should Match the Production environment" rule.
> >
> > I guess the answer would be to switch production to ARM... but Honestly,
> I
> > would rather tolerate windows than do that.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 12:32 PM Erik Anderson <erikerik at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> As of right now, my understanding of the situation is that, while there
> >> are virtualization options for the ARM based processors, their guests
> still
> >> need to be ARM. As in, they don’t yet translate ARM world into x32/x64
> >> world, at least not yet.
> >>
> >> At some point, I have no doubt that Vbox may support this,  but the
> >> performance hit is bound to be hard to stomach.
> >>
> >> While I’m excited about the some of the efficiency improvements of Apple
> >> moving to their own silicon, I’m a bit worried about how it will all
> play
> >> out for use cases like yours, which mirror the dev environments myself
> and
> >> my colleagues use.
> >>
> >> As our resident guinea pig, I will likely order one of the new ARM
> >> machines when they first become available so I can start figuring out
> >> what’s broken and how to fix it, before we start ordering them for other
> >> employees.
> >>
> >> - ea
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jul 11, 2020, at 09:37, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > We were going to transition to the Mac for workstations. We do our
> >> > development on Linux (Redhat) VM's using VirtualBox.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like it's no go.   Is there an open source virtualization tool I
> >> can
> >> > run on an an arm based mac and accomplish the same thing?
> >> >
> >> > :) Dave
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