[Cialug] Android > Surveillance Device

Tue Mar 19 21:58:39 UTC 2019

What kind of setup do you have on that pi-hole?  I have my network pi-holed
and my Wyze v2 works great!  Yes, your video goes to their servers...so
that's up to you if you trust it or not.  Until I can find a good CHEAP IP
cam with good features and works with a local NVR I'll go with Wyze.  They
seem to be on the much better end of the cheap cam market.

Also, they're working on an RTSP firmware that'll cut off all the cloud
features...(and maybe everything except cam/RTSP)

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 12:03 PM Hakan E. Duran <ehakanduran at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for the replies. The fact that it won't work behind a pi-hole
> (please see the other email in this thread) is an indication that the
> device is calling home perhaps regularly to stay functional. Depending
>  on the intentions of the developer/company, this may be a totally
> benign vs severely malignant behavior (like the one you are dreading)
> in my humble opinion. I would be very interested to know your
> experience with the alternate firmware, and will request some info about
> that in a couple of weeks (gotta set a reminder to self).
>
> Thanks for sharing the experience!
>
> Hakan
> On 19/03/16 04:44, Jared Brees wrote:
> > All I recall is email address + password. Perhaps a name, too. It does
> send a one-time code (5 digits) the first time you sign up.
> >
> > Of course, for me, the bigger privacy implication would be them
> receiving ALL of the video they want. I don't care if they have a (unique)
> email+pw from me (I used the gmail username+alias when I signed up).
> >
> > Currently the only permissions I've enabled are microphone and storage -
> Mic so I can talk via the camera's speaker, and storage so I can download
> videos.
> >
> > I plan to order two more today, to be flashed with an alternate
> firmware. If someone reminds me in a couple weeks, I can report back with
> how it went.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of Hakan E. Duran <
> ehakanduran at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 22:20
> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Android > Surveillance Device
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can those who are using WyzeCam provide some insight about how much
> > personal information is submitted at the time of set up? I bought a
> > webcam from amazon about 1.5 years ago and during its setup, the android
> > app required submission of physical street address, as well as wanted to
> > have permission on many aspects of my smart phone which I thought
> > shouldn't be necessary. Call me paranoid but as long as the software is
> > not opensource, we can never know what is sent to the company
> > headquarters by the device/app without our explicit consent. Does
> > WyzeCam provide any specific information about the use of user data?
> >
> > Hakan
> >
> > On 19/03/13 04:14, Jared Brees wrote:
> > > I 2nd the WyzeCam recommendation. Definitely get the microSD card for
> it, otherwise you will only have ~12 seconds of video until the motion
> stops for a bit. (so you might see a figure entering a home, but nothing
> after that).
> > >
> > > I've used IPCam on Android with Zoneminder, though, but I think that's
> overkill for this purpose.
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of Allen Kiddoo <
> adk at 52761.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 09:40
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Android > Surveillance Device
> > >
> > > Wyze V2. $25 on Amz. Easy setup, great video, mac and android apps,
> motion sense snaps. Can record to SD.  Me happy.
> > >
> > > > On Mar 13, 2019, at 7:55 AM, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You could always just hide a motion sensing trail cam in the room.
> For
> > > > less than $50, it might be a simple fast solution.
> > > >
> > > >
> https://www.amazon.com/Victure-Activated-Upgraded-Waterproof-Surveillance/dp/B07K53KL1G/ref=sr_1_6?hvadid=178127250640&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9017876&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=b&hvrand=16929660335502495542&hvtargid=kwd-12012965624&keywords=motion+activated+trail+camera&qid=1552481026&s=gateway&sr=8-6&tag=googhydr-20
> > > >
> > > > :) Dave
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:29 AM kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I've been experimenting with motionEyeOS
> > > >> (https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneyeos/wiki) on a couple of
> Raspberry
> > > >> Pi systems. So far, I've been pretty impressed.
> > > >>
> > > >> You could set up a few of these on Raspberry Pi Zeros and place them
> > > >> covertly to capture any shenanigans.
> > > >>
> > > >> This would, of course, require purchasing some hardware as
> motionEyeOS
> > > >> won't run on your android device.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:21 PM Todd Pierce <toddcpierce at gmail.com
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Crew,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm back in Santa Fe, and yes, kidnapped (contracted) by a woman
> who may
> > > >> be
> > > >>> nuts, but there is evidence her apartment (kitchen, closet,
> computers,
> > > >>> make-up) is indeed being vandalized when she's gone.  There may be
> some
> > > >>> fact to this.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> She's got an android netbook.  My first idea was to have the
> netbook take
> > > >>> photos every once in a while to see what is going on.  But that
> would be
> > > >>> hard to sort through, fill up her disk, and I don't even know what
> the
> > > >>> right android softwre would be right for that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is there any camera-able software that works from the command line
> such
> > > >>> that I may script things?  At least that way, I could only keep
> images
> > > >> that
> > > >>> are "different".
> > > >>>
> > > >>> More importantly, I'm interested in any creative ideas about how to
> > > >>> approach this one.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sincerely,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Todd
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