[Cialug] SANs/NASes

Wed May 17 17:53:01 UTC 2017

One of the most reliable FreeNAS servers I built was using a cheap Asus
mini ITX motherboard with an i3 processor. Just pay attention to the number
of sata ports on the motherboard.

-dc

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:48 PM, <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I most likely will be doing a NAS with as many HDDs as I can cram in
> there. Now to find salvage/recycled/cheap parts to build a pc, and a bunch
> of hard drives to stick in it free/cheap 😊
>
> From: Scott Yates
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:46 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] SANs/NASes
>
> I was surprised as well.  The cable installers did mention that it is
> fairly common for routers to not be able to keep up with full gigabit
> speeds.
>
> Either way, it was not up to the task.
>
> I would seriously recommend finding some used server hardware for a NAS
> rather than Synology if price is a serious concern.
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Justin Richeson <neomatrixjr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That's surprising that a quad core (even an atom) had that much trouble
> > routing network traffic given what most home-use routers are powered by,
> > though I don't claim to know as much about router architecture...
> >
> > Also, the Synology 4-bay is ~$550 on amazon.  Maybe I'm just too stingy,
> > but that seems awfully steep to me.
> >
> > Then again...neither of these are my area of expertise so feel free to
> > school me if I'm wrong.
> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I would note that pfSense is amazing, but you will want a fairly beefy
> > > machine if you are going to be anywhere near gig speeds.  The low power
> > box
> > > I had (quad core atom I think?) could not keep up.  I moved to an older
> > > used Xeon machine in a desktop case.  It is not low power, but it is
> > plenty
> > > fast and silent.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Justin Richeson <
> neomatrixjr at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I too am looking into this a bit...I had thought of doing freeNAS or
> > > > something similar (need more research).  But I'm also short on
> > > hardware.  I
> > > > have a couple 4x3.5 in 2x5.25 bay hot-swap trays, but I'm not sure if
> > > > they're restrictive at all of what SATA version passes through.... I
> > was
> > > > also wondering if there was any low-power consumption boards that
> might
> > > be
> > > > capable of this.  I see some of the NAS-in-a-box solutions but the
> > prices
> > > > on them are OUTRAGEOUS.  I can't believe we have $35 quad core
> > Raspberry
> > > Pi
> > > > SBCs but a home NAS box without drives is ~$500!  Yes, I know a PI
> > would
> > > be
> > > > BAD at this, but I can't believe there's no other options for < $100
> > that
> > > > would work well for this...at least for the cost of the board.
> > > >
> > > > Likewise, I had thought about running a PfSense box and getting
> better
> > > APs
> > > > for wifi vs my TPLink box with DD-WRT that always seems to have
> issues.
> > > > But my security brain says router + NAS = NOPE.  Alas...it sounds
> like
> > > the
> > > > much desired and anticipated fiber coming to Waukee will come with a
> > > > router-as-modem type solution that I'll either have to put in
> > passthrough
> > > > mode, or sacrifice network customization.  In addition, I have an
> MQTT
> > > > broker currently running on my windows desktop which is also
> currently
> > > > hosting my network shares and crashplan backup.  All of which I'd
> > rather
> > > > move back to linux...though I opted to shut down my old linux
> > > > server/desktop (and subsequently sell the hardware) due to excessive
> > > power
> > > > consumption since both it and my PC ran 100% of the time.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to keep my eyes out for low-cost, low-power solutions for
> > some
> > > > of these tasks at home.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd give it all a try. I just need hardware. Currently using my 1tb
> > on
> > > > Raid
> > > > > 5 for next cloud. Just installed zimbra for email and groupware on
> a
> > vm
> > > > > this weekend and just waiting for my static ip. Taking hardware
> > > > donations!
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:39 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would honestly be a little wary of the freenas plugins.  They
> > tend
> > > to
> > > > > not
> > > > > > upgrade well, and some have stability issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:58 PM, L. V. Lammert <
> lvl at omnitec.net>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 14 May 2017, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why not give something like FreeNAS a try? It's not Linux
> > based
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > FreeBSDbut it sounds really cool. It should run on any
> > relatively
> > > > > > recent
> > > > > > > > PChardware, although from what I hear it's happier with the
> > more
> > > > > memory
> > > > > > > > thatyou give it.
> > > > > > > > > For extra geek cred set up a Ceph cluster in your basement!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fine for storage, .. but for usability it's hard to beat
> > ownCloud
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > nextCloud.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > OwnCloud/NextCloud aren't really the same thing as they don't
> > > manage
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > underlying storage. That said, FreeNAS has a plugin that lets
> you
> > > run
> > > > > > > ownCloud on your FreeNAS box.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jeff Ollie
> > > > > > > The majestik møøse is one of the mäni interesting furry animals
> > in
> > > > > > Sweden.
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