[Cialug] SANs/NASes

Wed May 17 17:48:37 UTC 2017

I most likely will be doing a NAS with as many HDDs as I can cram in there. Now to find salvage/recycled/cheap parts to build a pc, and a bunch of hard drives to stick in it free/cheap 😊

From: Scott Yates
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:46 PM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] SANs/NASes

I was surprised as well.  The cable installers did mention that it is
fairly common for routers to not be able to keep up with full gigabit
speeds.

Either way, it was not up to the task.

I would seriously recommend finding some used server hardware for a NAS
rather than Synology if price is a serious concern.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Justin Richeson <neomatrixjr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> That's surprising that a quad core (even an atom) had that much trouble
> routing network traffic given what most home-use routers are powered by,
> though I don't claim to know as much about router architecture...
>
> Also, the Synology 4-bay is ~$550 on amazon.  Maybe I'm just too stingy,
> but that seems awfully steep to me.
>
> Then again...neither of these are my area of expertise so feel free to
> school me if I'm wrong.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
>
> > I would note that pfSense is amazing, but you will want a fairly beefy
> > machine if you are going to be anywhere near gig speeds.  The low power
> box
> > I had (quad core atom I think?) could not keep up.  I moved to an older
> > used Xeon machine in a desktop case.  It is not low power, but it is
> plenty
> > fast and silent.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Justin Richeson <neomatrixjr at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I too am looking into this a bit...I had thought of doing freeNAS or
> > > something similar (need more research).  But I'm also short on
> > hardware.  I
> > > have a couple 4x3.5 in 2x5.25 bay hot-swap trays, but I'm not sure if
> > > they're restrictive at all of what SATA version passes through.... I
> was
> > > also wondering if there was any low-power consumption boards that might
> > be
> > > capable of this.  I see some of the NAS-in-a-box solutions but the
> prices
> > > on them are OUTRAGEOUS.  I can't believe we have $35 quad core
> Raspberry
> > Pi
> > > SBCs but a home NAS box without drives is ~$500!  Yes, I know a PI
> would
> > be
> > > BAD at this, but I can't believe there's no other options for < $100
> that
> > > would work well for this...at least for the cost of the board.
> > >
> > > Likewise, I had thought about running a PfSense box and getting better
> > APs
> > > for wifi vs my TPLink box with DD-WRT that always seems to have issues.
> > > But my security brain says router + NAS = NOPE.  Alas...it sounds like
> > the
> > > much desired and anticipated fiber coming to Waukee will come with a
> > > router-as-modem type solution that I'll either have to put in
> passthrough
> > > mode, or sacrifice network customization.  In addition, I have an MQTT
> > > broker currently running on my windows desktop which is also currently
> > > hosting my network shares and crashplan backup.  All of which I'd
> rather
> > > move back to linux...though I opted to shut down my old linux
> > > server/desktop (and subsequently sell the hardware) due to excessive
> > power
> > > consumption since both it and my PC ran 100% of the time.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to keep my eyes out for low-cost, low-power solutions for
> some
> > > of these tasks at home.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd give it all a try. I just need hardware. Currently using my 1tb
> on
> > > Raid
> > > > 5 for next cloud. Just installed zimbra for email and groupware on a
> vm
> > > > this weekend and just waiting for my static ip. Taking hardware
> > > donations!
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:39 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would honestly be a little wary of the freenas plugins.  They
> tend
> > to
> > > > not
> > > > > upgrade well, and some have stability issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:58 PM, L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 14 May 2017, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why not give something like FreeNAS a try? It's not Linux
> based
> > > but
> > > > > > > FreeBSDbut it sounds really cool. It should run on any
> relatively
> > > > > recent
> > > > > > > PChardware, although from what I hear it's happier with the
> more
> > > > memory
> > > > > > > thatyou give it.
> > > > > > > > For extra geek cred set up a Ceph cluster in your basement!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fine for storage, .. but for usability it's hard to beat
> ownCloud
> > > or
> > > > > > > nextCloud.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OwnCloud/NextCloud aren't really the same thing as they don't
> > manage
> > > > the
> > > > > > underlying storage. That said, FreeNAS has a plugin that lets you
> > run
> > > > > > ownCloud on your FreeNAS box.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jeff Ollie
> > > > > > The majestik møøse is one of the mäni interesting furry animals
> in
> > > > > Sweden.
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