[Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs

[kristau]

Perhaps look at any languages we consider today to be "dead"
languages? In other words, what languages are taught in school, but
not really used by a sizeable population. In other, other words, which
programming languages are similar to spoken/written languages like
Latin, Sumerian, Phoenician, etc.?

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:54 AM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
> Note that programming languages are like religions in that they're tough to
> get going, but once one does get past the originating prophet hacker, they
> almost _never_ die
>
> I'm still waiting for the movie treatment of Stroustrup.  "You don't get
> rich writing C.  If you want to get rich, you code in C++."
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 11:50 AM, "Will" <staticphantom at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All I am getting from this thread is that languages come... But they really
> don't go away once they hit critical mass since 2010.
>
> C++ is reinventing itself by the way if anyone hasn't been following.
> Listen to the Cpp podcast if you are interested.
>
> -Will
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 11:15, "Andrew Denner" <linux-list at upeke.com> wrote:
>
>> On perl it all depends, there are so many different ways to write the same
>> code. Some are quite ugly.
>>
>> I think c# will have good staying power especially with parts of .net
> being
>> open sourced. Java probably will remain, and the something javascript
> based
>> will still be around.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Seconded on Perl, I use it daily. It's one of those languages that will
>> > remain around forever I one form or another.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:51 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I'm a huge Perl fan. Granted, most of what I need scripts for is text
>> > > processing, which is what Perl was designed for.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I have yet to see a compelling reason to use something other than Perl
>> > for
>> > > most server-side stuff.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jared Brees<http://me.relatedtotechnology.org/> - Squirrel
>> Photographer<
>> > > http://squirrels.relatedtotechnology.org/>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf
>> of
>> > > Nicolai <nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:10 PM
>> > > To: cialug at cialug.org
>> > > Subject: [Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs
>> > >
>> > > Hey all,
>> > >
>> > > What are your thoughts on programming languages in the next 10 years?
>> > > What will be the big winners and losers?  What's the trajectory of the
>> > > ecosystem?
>> > >
>> > > I've been learning Go recently.  I like it a lot and think it will be
>> my
>> > > default language now.  First I rewrote some simple C tools in Go, then
>> > > my password manager (also previously in C), next is something bigger.
>> > Like
>> > > several other languages, Go has a bright future.
>> > >
>> > > Python is nice, but other languages with safety features (like Rust
> and
>> > > Go) are getting big and they are also MUCH faster.  Given its
> slowness,
>> > > and combined with the awkward handling of Python2 to Python3, I think
>> > > Python will contract a bit.
>> > >
>> > > With Perl it's past time to SELL SELL SELL!  That ship has sailed.
>> > >
>> > > I hope Rust succeeds but I personally don't like the syntax.
>> > >
>> > > IMO C is the most beautiful language.  I've also come to believe that
>> > > programming languages are like shoes: they can be beautiful or
>> > > comfortable, or neither, but never both.  C is beautiful but unsafe.
>> > > Rust is safe but heinous (okay I said it).  Go is safe but kinda
>> > > plainly, similar to Python.
>> > >
>> > > C will be with us for a long time.  Maybe/hopefully C programmers
>> > > will begin to code more cautiously, making use of strl{cpy,cat},
>> > > OpenBSD pledge(), avoiding malloc, initializing variables, etc. to
>> > > reduce problems and create a sort of memory safety that's a lot better
>> > > than nothing.
>> > >
>> > > Nicolai
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