[Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs

[jim kraai]

Note that programming languages are like religions in that they're tough to
get going, but once one does get past the originating prophet hacker, they
almost _never_ die

I'm still waiting for the movie treatment of Stroustrup.  "You don't get
rich writing C.  If you want to get rich, you code in C++."


On Apr 26, 2017 11:50 AM, "Will" <staticphantom at gmail.com> wrote:

All I am getting from this thread is that languages come... But they really
don't go away once they hit critical mass since 2010.

C++ is reinventing itself by the way if anyone hasn't been following.
Listen to the Cpp podcast if you are interested.

-Will

On Apr 26, 2017 11:15, "Andrew Denner" <linux-list at upeke.com> wrote:

> On perl it all depends, there are so many different ways to write the same
> code. Some are quite ugly.
>
> I think c# will have good staying power especially with parts of .net
being
> open sourced. Java probably will remain, and the something javascript
based
> will still be around.
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Seconded on Perl, I use it daily. It's one of those languages that will
> > remain around forever I one form or another.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:51 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm a huge Perl fan. Granted, most of what I need scripts for is text
> > > processing, which is what Perl was designed for.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have yet to see a compelling reason to use something other than Perl
> > for
> > > most server-side stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jared Brees<http://me.relatedtotechnology.org/> - Squirrel
> Photographer<
> > > http://squirrels.relatedtotechnology.org/>
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf
> of
> > > Nicolai <nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:10 PM
> > > To: cialug at cialug.org
> > > Subject: [Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts on programming languages in the next 10 years?
> > > What will be the big winners and losers?  What's the trajectory of the
> > > ecosystem?
> > >
> > > I've been learning Go recently.  I like it a lot and think it will be
> my
> > > default language now.  First I rewrote some simple C tools in Go, then
> > > my password manager (also previously in C), next is something bigger.
> > Like
> > > several other languages, Go has a bright future.
> > >
> > > Python is nice, but other languages with safety features (like Rust
and
> > > Go) are getting big and they are also MUCH faster.  Given its
slowness,
> > > and combined with the awkward handling of Python2 to Python3, I think
> > > Python will contract a bit.
> > >
> > > With Perl it's past time to SELL SELL SELL!  That ship has sailed.
> > >
> > > I hope Rust succeeds but I personally don't like the syntax.
> > >
> > > IMO C is the most beautiful language.  I've also come to believe that
> > > programming languages are like shoes: they can be beautiful or
> > > comfortable, or neither, but never both.  C is beautiful but unsafe.
> > > Rust is safe but heinous (okay I said it).  Go is safe but kinda
> > > plainly, similar to Python.
> > >
> > > C will be with us for a long time.  Maybe/hopefully C programmers
> > > will begin to code more cautiously, making use of strl{cpy,cat},
> > > OpenBSD pledge(), avoiding malloc, initializing variables, etc. to
> > > reduce problems and create a sort of memory safety that's a lot better
> > > than nothing.
> > >
> > > Nicolai
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