[Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs

[Scott Yates]

Hmm.  Did not know perl had ANY chops for multi-threaded work.  I still
happen to think that most of perl is an anti-pattern, but I certainly do
acknowledge it has its place.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Will <staticphantom at gmail.com> wrote:

> Perl is going to be pain that won't go away for a while. It is more than
> text processing but as a python guy... Perl can't be touched for
> multi-threaded programming in addition to some amazing disc access.
>
> Perl is far from a beautiful language, however after meeting Ricardo
> Signes, I have to appreciate Perl for what it is. A scripting language that
> constantly is evolving itself pushing boundaries. The performance cannot be
> touched by other scripting languages and the language is filled with
> anti-patterns that can just work. Perl 5 just needed objects from the
> start.
>
> Now... Who here has touched Perl 6? I like what I see but can't bring
> myself to drop python.
>
> -Will C
>
> On Apr 25, 2017 11:36 PM, "Scott Yates" <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
>
> > I have used perl for many years, and like it too, but I am not sure it is
> > the best thing for server side stuff.  As far as "beauty" goes, I think
> > Ruby might win that argument (for me at least).
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm a huge Perl fan. Granted, most of what I need scripts for is text
> > > processing, which is what Perl was designed for.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have yet to see a compelling reason to use something other than Perl
> > for
> > > most server-side stuff.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jared Brees<http://me.relatedtotechnology.org/> - Squirrel
> Photographer<
> > > http://squirrels.relatedtotechnology.org/>
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf
> of
> > > Nicolai <nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:10 PM
> > > To: cialug at cialug.org
> > > Subject: [Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > What are your thoughts on programming languages in the next 10 years?
> > > What will be the big winners and losers?  What's the trajectory of the
> > > ecosystem?
> > >
> > > I've been learning Go recently.  I like it a lot and think it will be
> my
> > > default language now.  First I rewrote some simple C tools in Go, then
> > > my password manager (also previously in C), next is something bigger.
> > Like
> > > several other languages, Go has a bright future.
> > >
> > > Python is nice, but other languages with safety features (like Rust and
> > > Go) are getting big and they are also MUCH faster.  Given its slowness,
> > > and combined with the awkward handling of Python2 to Python3, I think
> > > Python will contract a bit.
> > >
> > > With Perl it's past time to SELL SELL SELL!  That ship has sailed.
> > >
> > > I hope Rust succeeds but I personally don't like the syntax.
> > >
> > > IMO C is the most beautiful language.  I've also come to believe that
> > > programming languages are like shoes: they can be beautiful or
> > > comfortable, or neither, but never both.  C is beautiful but unsafe.
> > > Rust is safe but heinous (okay I said it).  Go is safe but kinda
> > > plainly, similar to Python.
> > >
> > > C will be with us for a long time.  Maybe/hopefully C programmers
> > > will begin to code more cautiously, making use of strl{cpy,cat},
> > > OpenBSD pledge(), avoiding malloc, initializing variables, etc. to
> > > reduce problems and create a sort of memory safety that's a lot better
> > > than nothing.
> > >
> > > Nicolai
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