[Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs

[Will]

Perl is going to be pain that won't go away for a while. It is more than
text processing but as a python guy... Perl can't be touched for
multi-threaded programming in addition to some amazing disc access.

Perl is far from a beautiful language, however after meeting Ricardo
Signes, I have to appreciate Perl for what it is. A scripting language that
constantly is evolving itself pushing boundaries. The performance cannot be
touched by other scripting languages and the language is filled with
anti-patterns that can just work. Perl 5 just needed objects from the
start.

Now... Who here has touched Perl 6? I like what I see but can't bring
myself to drop python.

-Will C

On Apr 25, 2017 11:36 PM, "Scott Yates" <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:

> I have used perl for many years, and like it too, but I am not sure it is
> the best thing for server side stuff.  As far as "beauty" goes, I think
> Ruby might win that argument (for me at least).
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm a huge Perl fan. Granted, most of what I need scripts for is text
> > processing, which is what Perl was designed for.
> >
> >
> > I have yet to see a compelling reason to use something other than Perl
> for
> > most server-side stuff.
> >
> >
> > Jared Brees<http://me.relatedtotechnology.org/> - Squirrel Photographer<
> > http://squirrels.relatedtotechnology.org/>
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of
> > Nicolai <nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:10 PM
> > To: cialug at cialug.org
> > Subject: [Cialug] Programming languages: next 10 yrs
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > What are your thoughts on programming languages in the next 10 years?
> > What will be the big winners and losers?  What's the trajectory of the
> > ecosystem?
> >
> > I've been learning Go recently.  I like it a lot and think it will be my
> > default language now.  First I rewrote some simple C tools in Go, then
> > my password manager (also previously in C), next is something bigger.
> Like
> > several other languages, Go has a bright future.
> >
> > Python is nice, but other languages with safety features (like Rust and
> > Go) are getting big and they are also MUCH faster.  Given its slowness,
> > and combined with the awkward handling of Python2 to Python3, I think
> > Python will contract a bit.
> >
> > With Perl it's past time to SELL SELL SELL!  That ship has sailed.
> >
> > I hope Rust succeeds but I personally don't like the syntax.
> >
> > IMO C is the most beautiful language.  I've also come to believe that
> > programming languages are like shoes: they can be beautiful or
> > comfortable, or neither, but never both.  C is beautiful but unsafe.
> > Rust is safe but heinous (okay I said it).  Go is safe but kinda
> > plainly, similar to Python.
> >
> > C will be with us for a long time.  Maybe/hopefully C programmers
> > will begin to code more cautiously, making use of strl{cpy,cat},
> > OpenBSD pledge(), avoiding malloc, initializing variables, etc. to
> > reduce problems and create a sort of memory safety that's a lot better
> > than nothing.
> >
> > Nicolai
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