[Cialug] Most reliable backup solution

Thu Feb 12 17:08:40 CST 2015

I have a similar system in place with crash plan. The only complaints I
have is that I need to relocate the server at their house -- dad keeps
bumping the power button :-D

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Justin Richeson <neomatrixjr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just want to put in a vote for crashplan.  My parents and I use it to great
> effect.  I have a backup server set up at their place and mine which allows
> for local/off-site backups for both of us.  Had a drive die awhile ago,
> full restore from my local crashplan server.  Also, added benefit, I can go
> grab the external 4TB drive at my parent's, drive it to my house, hook it
> up and copy the "local" backups back and forth if they get too far out of
> sync (or for the initial copy).  Saves trying to upload hundreds of gigs
> over the internet.
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Crouse <crouse at usalug.net> wrote:
>
> > https://crouse.us/?p=261
> >
> > Basically at home I have a vmware esxi server, that connects to my
> nas4free
> > NAS which is run by bsd/zfs.  zfs is pretty awesome... you could host it
> > all on openindiana and use timeslider too though ;)
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Kenneth Younger <kyounger at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, from what I hear, ansible is nice if you are more familiar with
> > python
> > > than ruby.
> > >
> > > On that note, there's also salt. https://github.com/saltstack/salt
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM, David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Check this out, looks to be a good option.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ansible.com/
> > > >
> > > > -dc
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, that's a good idea. For me, there are two things stopping me:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that both Chef and Puppet are boring. I try to read the
> docs
> > > and
> > > > > tutorials and my eyes glaze over (I'm open to suggestions that are
> > > short
> > > > > and practical).
> > > > >
> > > > > I should have mentioned in the original post that it'd be great to
> > find
> > > > > something that scales up to the desktop as well, though I guess
> your
> > > > > suggestions work there too, though that takes some fun out of the
> > > > Software
> > > > > Center.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Kenneth Younger <
> kyounger at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What about building servers completely with Puppet/Chef/other CM
> > > tool?
> > > > If
> > > > > > you build the scripts well enough originally, then you can
> > generally
> > > > > remove
> > > > > > ongoing dealings with that list other than #2. Also, it can help
> > with
> > > > > > scaling (if and when you need it). I used to think CM was just
> for
> > > > > > people/orgs that needed to provision 100's of servers and complex
> > > > > > infrastructure, when I started viewing it as a way to manage
> > > > > infrastructure
> > > > > > entirely with code (DRY, version control!, etc), it started to
> make
> > > > more
> > > > > > sense even on a single server system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which is why I've been studying up on Puppet recently. But I'm
> not
> > > > saying
> > > > > > Puppet is better than Chef or any of the others, it's just what I
> > > > picked,
> > > > > > and I may change in the future. (CM tool decisions are the new
> > > vi/emacs
> > > > > > flame wars topics it seems...)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Matthew Nuzum <
> newz at bearfruit.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Most of the backup solutions I've used involved rsync and a
> > remote
> > > > file
> > > > > > > store. The restore process looks like this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   1a. Install OS and updates
> > > > > > >   1b. Install required packages (hopefully I get them all)
> > > > > > >   1c. Configure software (by restoring /etc)
> > > > > > >   2. Restore data
> > > > > > >   3. Restart services and we're live
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The effort to do steps 1a - 1c are pretty laborious. In the
> case
> > > of a
> > > > > web
> > > > > > > server, it takes far longer than restoring the data.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've used time-machine for Mac OS and it works pretty slick. If
> > you
> > > > > > > experience a failure or data loss, you boot off of the
> > installation
> > > > > > media,
> > > > > > > at the installation screen choose to restore from backup,
> choose
> > > the
> > > > > > backup
> > > > > > > location and it restores the OS, the Apps and your data in one
> > > swoop.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was wondering last night if there is a better way to do my
> > server
> > > > > > backup
> > > > > > > than what I'm using. I know about CrashPlan, but essentially,
> it
> > is
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > going to be the same steps above, if I understand correctly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > >
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