[Cialug] Most reliable backup solution

Thu Feb 12 16:59:55 CST 2015

Just want to put in a vote for crashplan.  My parents and I use it to great
effect.  I have a backup server set up at their place and mine which allows
for local/off-site backups for both of us.  Had a drive die awhile ago,
full restore from my local crashplan server.  Also, added benefit, I can go
grab the external 4TB drive at my parent's, drive it to my house, hook it
up and copy the "local" backups back and forth if they get too far out of
sync (or for the initial copy).  Saves trying to upload hundreds of gigs
over the internet.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Crouse <crouse at usalug.net> wrote:

> https://crouse.us/?p=261
>
> Basically at home I have a vmware esxi server, that connects to my nas4free
> NAS which is run by bsd/zfs.  zfs is pretty awesome... you could host it
> all on openindiana and use timeslider too though ;)
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Kenneth Younger <kyounger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, from what I hear, ansible is nice if you are more familiar with
> python
> > than ruby.
> >
> > On that note, there's also salt. https://github.com/saltstack/salt
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:57 AM, David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Check this out, looks to be a good option.
> > >
> > > http://www.ansible.com/
> > >
> > > -dc
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, that's a good idea. For me, there are two things stopping me:
> > > >
> > > > I think that both Chef and Puppet are boring. I try to read the docs
> > and
> > > > tutorials and my eyes glaze over (I'm open to suggestions that are
> > short
> > > > and practical).
> > > >
> > > > I should have mentioned in the original post that it'd be great to
> find
> > > > something that scales up to the desktop as well, though I guess your
> > > > suggestions work there too, though that takes some fun out of the
> > > Software
> > > > Center.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Kenneth Younger <kyounger at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What about building servers completely with Puppet/Chef/other CM
> > tool?
> > > If
> > > > > you build the scripts well enough originally, then you can
> generally
> > > > remove
> > > > > ongoing dealings with that list other than #2. Also, it can help
> with
> > > > > scaling (if and when you need it). I used to think CM was just for
> > > > > people/orgs that needed to provision 100's of servers and complex
> > > > > infrastructure, when I started viewing it as a way to manage
> > > > infrastructure
> > > > > entirely with code (DRY, version control!, etc), it started to make
> > > more
> > > > > sense even on a single server system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is why I've been studying up on Puppet recently. But I'm not
> > > saying
> > > > > Puppet is better than Chef or any of the others, it's just what I
> > > picked,
> > > > > and I may change in the future. (CM tool decisions are the new
> > vi/emacs
> > > > > flame wars topics it seems...)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Most of the backup solutions I've used involved rsync and a
> remote
> > > file
> > > > > > store. The restore process looks like this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   1a. Install OS and updates
> > > > > >   1b. Install required packages (hopefully I get them all)
> > > > > >   1c. Configure software (by restoring /etc)
> > > > > >   2. Restore data
> > > > > >   3. Restart services and we're live
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The effort to do steps 1a - 1c are pretty laborious. In the case
> > of a
> > > > web
> > > > > > server, it takes far longer than restoring the data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've used time-machine for Mac OS and it works pretty slick. If
> you
> > > > > > experience a failure or data loss, you boot off of the
> installation
> > > > > media,
> > > > > > at the installation screen choose to restore from backup, choose
> > the
> > > > > backup
> > > > > > location and it restores the OS, the Apps and your data in one
> > swoop.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was wondering last night if there is a better way to do my
> server
> > > > > backup
> > > > > > than what I'm using. I know about CrashPlan, but essentially, it
> is
> > > > still
> > > > > > going to be the same steps above, if I understand correctly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > >
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