[Cialug] SysAdmin FYI

[Dave Hala]

There is a culture gap... at least in the language department. Us old
dudes just communicate differently.  Us old dudes need to be aware of
it, and understand that the children are oblivious to the fact of how
important it is to be able to effectively communicate and function as
a team. (sounds like a bunch of corporate HR crap, doesn't it?) The
issue isn't inexperienced children vs. decrepit old farts.  Its
communication. Both groups can function well together, after they
realize that the *real*  issue is effective communication across the
cultural lines. Its really not about "Old fart vs dumb ass college
kid".

The difference between an old man and a young man, is that the old man
has already done all the stupid things that the young man is about to
do. He is powerless (because of the inability to effectively
communicate with the kid)  to prevent the kid from making the same
mistakes he did, so he just sits back and watches it unfold.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Crouse <crouse at usalug.net> wrote:
> "And young people might say exactly to opposite about you: some entitled
> old dude who still thinks emacs vs. vim is relevant" ... WTH... vi finally
> won right ?
>
> Old dude.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Zachary Kotlarek <zach at kotlarek.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Matt Stanton <matt at itwannabe.com> wrote:
>>
>> > It's not so much about age as how this guy acts... or at least how he
>> writes.
>>
>> Except the difference you're citing are directly correlated with age -- as
>> you note, the language in question came into existence as part of a certain
>> computer-related culture that you are slightly too old to be a part of.
>> These people, simply be being alive at the right time and interested in
>> computer security, would have been widely exposed to script-kiddie (which
>> is itself a dismissive, agist description of behavior not particularly
>> related to age), and they may even have been script-kiddies when they were
>> younger. Why does that mean they are unqualified today?
>>
>> Have you never heard your grandmother (or a similarly aged person) lament
>> that people today don't write by hand, or that they use language in ways
>> she finds unbecoming? Isn't that exactly what you're doing here -- applying
>> cultural judgements across cultures?
>>
>>         Zach
>>
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