[Cialug] San Francisco in November

[Jeff Chapin]

I think that's a vast oversimplification, especially since the OP admitted
that several of the considerations that people have mentioned have not been
considered. I would say, in particular, that the advice concerning winter
driving over the Rockies may not have been asked for, but was valuable
information that had originally been overlooked.


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:26 PM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:

> op: "i want to do x, for my own reasons.  if anyone wants to do x with me,
> let me know."
>
> people: "your reasons are silly, poor, and/or confusing to me, you're wrong
> for wanting to do x, you should do y."
>
> jimk: "very sad pattern around here, *sigh*"
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Kenneth Younger <kyounger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Nevermind the relative risk injury and death of flying versus driving.
> > On Aug 30, 2014 11:30 AM, "Rob Cook" <rdjcook at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The math is pretty damming for driving. From Des Moines, assuming that
> > > someone were to go along, it's 1800mi one way to San Francisco.
> Assuming
> > > that the car gets at least 30mpg and the current national average cost
> > of a
> > > gallon of gas, today, is $3.43 we can crunch some numbers. 3600mi round
> > > trip divided by 30mpg = 120gal for the entire trip, divide that by 3/4
> > and
> > > you get 90gals for the passenger to cover so that is going to cost
> > $308.70
> > > round trip.
> > >
> > > Kayak sez... Roundtrip flight from DSM to SFO leaving 10/31 returning
> > 11/3
> > > is $333.
> > >
> > > And then there is this, the flights all said are around 15hrs travel
> time
> > > vs 52hrs in a car.
> > >
> > > All that adds up to a big no thanks, I'd fly.
> > >
> > >  Oh and if you flew from MSP instead, the cost is a wash, $308 round
> > trip.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:43 PM, kristau <kristau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Didn't the Mythbusters do a segment on this recently? They tested the
> > > > "myth" that any trip under 400 miles would be quicker by car. I
> believe
> > > > they confirmed it. That means anything over 400 miles will be faster
> by
> > > > plane. I fully realize that faster doesn't mean cheaper, but it may
> be
> > > > worth doing the math to compare on a trip from MN to CA. . .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Anthony Jeffries <
> > > > ajeffri at angrywithunicorns.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I second this. Fly or take Amtrak. Driving across the Rockies (even
> > > going
> > > > > through AZ and NM) at that time of year can be difficult. I had to
> do
> > > > > almost the exact same trip and got delayed *twice* by snowstorms,
> and
> > > > even
> > > > > when we could drive it was often slow and treacherous. Fortunately,
> > my
> > > > > employer was flexible about vacation time.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/29/14 10:22 AM, Aaron Porter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> You're probably better off flying. Having done the drive a couple
> of
> > > > >> times.
> > > > >> Fares into San Jose don't look too horrible from MSP.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Brian Wood <
> woodbrian77 at gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  There's a meeting:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> https://www.meetbsd.com/
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> out in San Francisco that I'm interested in.  I would provide
> > > > >>> a vehicle and expect you to pay for 3/4 of the gas and help
> > > > >>> drive.  If you are interested, please let me know.  I live in
> > > > >>> St. Paul, Minnesota, but could drive through Iowa and pick
> > > > >>> you up somewhere.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
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Jeff Chapin
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