[Cialug] Rookie installer having trouble
c
cbpurcell at gmail.com
Mon Aug 18 17:34:31 CDT 2014
If you just want to get some experience with linux and start to get
comfortable, I recommend keeping windows on your laptop and just use
pendrivelinux to boot off of a usb drive.
It is a pretty simple process and might be the best way for you to start
working with linux.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:26 PM, <murraymckee at wellsfargo.com> wrote:
> UHMMM. Well, I have some practice using dual boot. I had an old machine
> some time ago that had two versions of Windows on it. And I used a machine
> for a while that had both Windows and Linux on it and they both used dual
> boot. And I have no experience with PC virtualization so I don't know
> where to start. As can be seen from my problems so far, I have a lot to
> learn, and I didn't want to throw virtualization into the mix, yet. If I
> can get Linux and Windows up and running on the same machine that will be a
> good first step, or first few steps. Then I can think of adding
> virtualization to the mix. In an ideal world, that's probably the way to
> go, but I'm going for baby steps right now. I'm hoping to be not too far
> from a working machine, most of the time.
>
> Murray R. McKee
>
> Operating Systems Analyst
> Mainframe/Midrange Services
>
> Wells Fargo Compute Platform Services | 800 Walnut Street | Des
> Moines, IA 50309-3605
> MAC N0001-037
> Tel 515-557-6127 | Cell 515-343-6630 | Fax 515-557-6046 | Text pager:
> 5153436630 at vtext.com
>
> MurrayMcKee at WellsFargo.com
>
> TOG Recognition
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
> Behalf Of kristau
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:46 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Rookie installer having trouble
>
> Adding my $0.25 here, why are you dual booting? Why not use some sort of
> virtualization? Yes, I'll admit my bias towards all things virtual, but I
> really don't see any compelling reason to dual boot any more. Windows XP
> should work fine under KVM and you can completely isolate it from the
> network by not giving it any network interfaces at all.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Sean Flattery <sean.r.flattery at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm glad to hear you got the SSD detection working.
> >
> > I'll second the recommendation for using gparted. In addition to
> > having its own live cd it's usually packaged with distros like Ubuntu.
> > After using Clonezilla to copy the data to a new hard drive, load up
> > gparted and extend that partition into your free space. Make sure you
> > leave enough space for that Linux install you'd like to do. You can
> > also use gparted to create that data partition for shared storage
> between Windows and Linux.
> > You'll probably want to use a Windows friendly format like NTFS for
> that.
> >
> > To answer your question about install order, always install Windows
> > first and then Linux, as the Windows boot loader doesn't want you to
> > load up another OS. Grub however will do that just fine. Picasa used
> > to have Linux support, but they dropped it two years ago. You might
> > be able to load up that old version if it'll help with the wife.
> > Although if you're only using Windows for Picasa, you could just
> > install Linux, create a VM, and load Windows from within that.
> >
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------
> > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:00:50 +0000
> > From: <murraymckee at wellsfargo.com>
> > To: <cialug at cialug.org>
> > Subject: [Cialug] Rookie installer having trouble
> > Message-ID:
> > <033047B9BEF0FA4CAED4732C486C39004B9F65E3 at MSGEXSV21109.ent.
> > wfb.bank.corp>
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I had really hoped to get further before I had to ask for help, but I
> > didn't get that far.
> >
> > Here's the situation.
> >
> > I have two Windows XP laptops that I'd like to set up to dual boot to
> > Linux and XP. My wife doesn't want to learn something other than
> > Picasa right now. Once I get my laptop converted I'll do my wife's
> > laptop. The plan is to use XP & Picasa when not connected to the
> > internet and Linux, Firefox, Thunderbird when connecting to the internet.
> >
> > They have 40G hard drives. Mine is nearly full, the other one has
> > some space.
> >
> > I bought a pair of 64G USB drives. One to use as backup. I copied
> > the 17G of data from my computer to one of the USB drives. I've also
> > copied it to a USB external hard drive as well. Two backups is better
> than one.
> >
> > I bought a pair of 256G Crucial MX100 SSD to replace the hard drives.
> > I bought a Sabrent USB3 to SATA/IDE connector. (I think USB-DSC8 is
> > the model or part number)
> >
> > Here's what I did last Saturday afternoon at church where I can access
> > WIFI. Out in the country we have dialup for personal e-mail. Well, I
> > guess it was 2 Saturdays ago now.
> >
> > I downloaded TUXBOOT & ? to do the drive copy from the hard drive to
> > the USB. (I tried to use EZ GIG IV but it didn't support the Sabrent
> > connector.) I can't find the down load of the copy code on my laptop,
> > so I must have downloaded it directly to the USB, and it's wiped out now.
> >
> > I rebooted to TUX and copied from the hard drive to the SSD, or so I
> > thought. It ran for 45 minutes and failed. I deleted some stuff, ran
> > defrag, and tried again. It failed again. After several hours of
> > work, finding what to use instead of what I thought I was going to
> > use, downloading and installing it, and finally running it and failing
> > twice, I gave up and went home. It was well past supper time already.
> >
> > So, this afternoon I set the laptop back up here at home. I'm using
> > my work laptop for this e-mail as it has a cell modem. I connected
> > the SSD through Sabrent connector and looked at my two USB drives.
> > One contained my backup data as expected and had a capacity of 61G, 17G
> used.
> >
> > I looked at the other one, expecting to see the TUXBOOT & ?, but found
> > a copy of my "C" drive, and no tuxboot to be seen. What surprised me
> > even more that the USB drive was formatted to 40G and completely full.
> > I now guess that the USB is allocated in 4K blocks and the hard drive
> > is allocated in something smaller and that caused the backup error.
> > Although both are NTFS file systems.
> >
> > What concerns me is that I can NOT see the SSD, even though there are
> > two lights on the block at the other end of the cable from the USB
> > connector that plugs into the laptop. One appears to be indicating
> > that there is a USB connection, and the other is labeled SATA. I'm
> > assuming that means that the block is talking to the SATA SSD drive.
> >
> > Since Windows can't see the SSD drive I'm guessing that TUXBOOT & ?
> > can't either and I inadvertently selected the USB when I started the
> > copy. I didn't connect the SSD drive to the laptop until after I'd
> > shut it down in preparation to boot TUXBOOT from the USB drive.
> >
> > I really wanted to make two or maybe three partitions on the SSD, one
> > for XP and one for Linux, and possibly one for common data where both
> > could read and write, well, one at a time, whichever one was booted at
> the time.
> > But if I use the same thing I used last weekend I'll end up with the
> > same problem again. Even if I figure out how to see the SSD, I'll get
> > it formatted down to 40G and lose the other 200G of space and have no
> > room to install Linux.
> >
> > So, the two questions I have for the computer wizards out there are:
> >
> > 1. Has anybody used a Sabrent USB-DSC8 to connect to an external SSD,
> > and how do I get the computer to recognize the SSD drive?
> >
> > 2. How do I copy Windows to the Curcial SSD without formatting it down
> > to 40G so I have room for Linux and data expansion? Or should I
> > install Linux on the new SSD first and then copy the XP system in?
> >
> > Or am I going about this all wrong and I need to start over farther back.
> >
> > Years ago I had a 200G hard drive on my home desktop computer, when
> > that was huge, and it became flaky. I bought a 1T drive to replace it
> > and copied the entire drive over using the software that came with the
> > new drive. Now I can only access 200G on my 1T drive. At the time it
> > didn't worry me as I was more concerned with the drive being flaky.
> > In the intervening years I've used up most of the 200G and I'd love to
> > use more space on my desktop, but I can't get at it. I don't want the
> > same thing to happen to my SSD. Losing 1/3 of my USB is a nuisance.
> > Losing 80% of my SSD is not acceptable, especially when I need more
> space now.
> >
> > The other thing that happened was while I was trying to download
> > TUXBOOT & ? I seem to have gotten way more than I wanted and every
> > time I connect to the internet I get a constant stream of popup
> > windows with advertising that I have to keep closing and then they
> > open a browser window even though I said close. I tried to uninstall
> > some of it, but it seems to have deleted something that is required to
> > uninstall software and I can't uninstall anything now. Bummer!
> >
> > I'm sorry about such a long rambling e-mail, but I thought with enough
> > details there was a better chance of getting an answer than resolves
> > the problem.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Murray R. McKee
> >
> > Operating Systems Analyst
> > Mainframe/Midrange Services
> >
> > Wells Fargo Compute Platform Services | 800 Walnut Street | Des
> > Moines, IA 50309-3605 MAC N0001-037 Tel 515-557-6127 | Cell
> > 515-343-6630 | Fax 515-557-6046 | Text pager:
> > 5153436630 at vtext.com
> >
> > MurrayMcKee at WellsFargo.com
> >
> > TOG Recognition
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, <cialug-request at cialug.org> wrote:
> >
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Re: Backup of user machines (L. V. Lammert)
> > > 2. Re: Backup of user machines (Pixie)
> > > 3. Re: Backup of user machines (c)
> > > 4. Rookie installer having trouble (murraymckee at wellsfargo.com)
> > > 5. Re: Backup of user machines (Scott Yates)
> > > 6. Re: Backup of user machines (Scott Yates)
> > > 7. Re: Backup of user machines (L. V. Lammert)
> > > 8. Re: Backup of user machines (Scott Yates)
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:09:18 -0500 (CDT)
> > > From: "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net>
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Backup of user machines
> > > Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.53.1408161208260.21637 at Mail.omnitec.net>
> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> > >
> > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Pixie wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's more in the category of "DropBox replacement" than "backup
> > > > utility", but BitTorrent Sync has been working pretty well around
> > > > these parts.
> > > >
> > > Interesting suggestion, .. !! Have you built any 'customized'
> > > installers that will include the setup info?
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:28:56 -0500
> > > From: Pixie <pix at kepibu.org>
> > > To: cialug at cialug.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Backup of user machines
> > > Message-ID: <53EF94D8.4070100 at kepibu.org>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > On 2014.08.16 12:09, L. V. Lammert wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Pixie wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> It's more in the category of "DropBox replacement" than "backup
> > > >> utility", but BitTorrent Sync has been working pretty well around
> > these
> > > >> parts.
> > > >>
> > > > Interesting suggestion, .. !! Have you built any 'customized'
> > installers
> > > > that will include the setup info?
> > >
> > > Alas, no. The small number of machines involved, the low rate of
> > > hardware churn, and my not even remotely being a Windows developer,
> > > meant it would have taken /way/ longer to automate than to just do
> > > the installs manually.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:47:14 -0500
> > > From: c <cbpurcell at gmail.com>
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Backup of user machines
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <CAGsp=u=tRsFnUy+eRyy7LG+hb48=+
> > > 2bw0_Cf_7czYAXEiQh2xg at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > Haven't found the how tos, but according to this page you can back
> > > up to any computer or drive with internet access.
> > > http://www.code42.com/crashplan/features/backup-destinations/#offsit
> > > e
> > >
> > > Sorry for the brevity. On a plane right now, typing from my phone.
> > > On Aug 16, 2014 11:25 AM, "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, c wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Crashplan. http://www.code42.com/crashplan/
> > > > >
> > > > Didn't know it could use our servers - can you point me to those
> docs?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Lee
> > > >
> > > > > Purcell
> > > > > On Aug 16, 2014 10:39 AM, "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would like to have a 'user level' backup system for some of
> > > > > > our
> > > users;
> > > > > > rsnapshot is fine for servers, but managing backups and
> > > > > > restoring a
> > > > file
> > > > > > is not something for a user.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any recommendations for a 'user friendly' system? Need cross
> (i.e.
> > > > Windoze
> > > > > > 8), .. and use our servers for storage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lee
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 20:00:50 +0000
> > > From: <murraymckee at wellsfargo.com>
> > > To: <cialug at cialug.org>
> > > Subject: [Cialug] Rookie installer having trouble
> > > Message-ID:
> > >
> > > <033047B9BEF0FA4CAED4732C486C39004B9F65E3 at MSGEXSV21109.ent.wfb.bank.
> > > corp
> > >
> > >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > I had really hoped to get further before I had to ask for help, but
> > > I didn't get that far.
> > >
> > > Here's the situation.
> > >
> > > I have two Windows XP laptops that I'd like to set up to dual boot
> > > to Linux and XP. My wife doesn't want to learn something other than
> > > Picasa right now. Once I get my laptop converted I'll do my wife's
> > > laptop. The plan is to use XP & Picasa when not connected to the
> > > internet and Linux, Firefox, Thunderbird when connecting to the
> internet.
> > >
> > > They have 40G hard drives. Mine is nearly full, the other one has
> > > some space.
> > >
> > > I bought a pair of 64G USB drives. One to use as backup. I copied
> > > the 17G of data from my computer to one of the USB drives. I've
> > > also copied
> > it
> > > to a USB external hard drive as well. Two backups is better than one.
> > >
> > > I bought a pair of 256G Crucial MX100 SSD to replace the hard
> > > drives. I bought a Sabrent USB3 to SATA/IDE connector. (I think
> > > USB-DSC8 is the model or part number)
> > >
> > > Here's what I did last Saturday afternoon at church where I can
> > > access WIFI. Out in the country we have dialup for personal e-mail.
> > > Well, I guess it was 2 Saturdays ago now.
> > >
> > > I downloaded TUXBOOT & ? to do the drive copy from the hard drive to
> > > the USB. (I tried to use EZ GIG IV but it didn't support the
> > > Sabrent
> > > connector.) I can't find the down load of the copy code on my
> > > laptop,
> > so I
> > > must have downloaded it directly to the USB, and it's wiped out now.
> > >
> > > I rebooted to TUX and copied from the hard drive to the SSD, or so I
> > > thought. It ran for 45 minutes and failed. I deleted some stuff,
> > > ran defrag, and tried again. It failed again. After several hours
> > > of work, finding what to use instead of what I thought I was going
> > > to use, downloading and installing it, and finally running it and
> > > failing twice,
> > I
> > > gave up and went home. It was well past supper time already.
> > >
> > > So, this afternoon I set the laptop back up here at home. I'm using
> > > my work laptop for this e-mail as it has a cell modem. I connected
> > > the SSD through Sabrent connector and looked at my two USB drives.
> > > One contained my backup data as expected and had a capacity of 61G,
> 17G used.
> > >
> > > I looked at the other one, expecting to see the TUXBOOT & ?, but
> > > found a copy of my "C" drive, and no tuxboot to be seen. What
> > > surprised me even more that the USB drive was formatted to 40G and
> > > completely full. I now guess that the USB is allocated in 4K blocks
> > > and the hard drive is allocated in something smaller and that caused
> the backup error.
> > Although
> > > both are NTFS file systems.
> > >
> > > What concerns me is that I can NOT see the SSD, even though there
> > > are two lights on the block at the other end of the cable from the
> > > USB connector that plugs into the laptop. One appears to be
> > > indicating that there is a USB connection, and the other is labeled
> > > SATA. I'm assuming that means that the block is talking to the SATA
> SSD drive.
> > >
> > > Since Windows can't see the SSD drive I'm guessing that TUXBOOT & ?
> > > can't either and I inadvertently selected the USB when I started the
> > > copy. I didn't connect the SSD drive to the laptop until after I'd
> > > shut it down
> > in
> > > preparation to boot TUXBOOT from the USB drive.
> > >
> > > I really wanted to make two or maybe three partitions on the SSD,
> > > one for XP and one for Linux, and possibly one for common data where
> > > both could read and write, well, one at a time, whichever one was
> > > booted at the
> > time.
> > > But if I use the same thing I used last weekend I'll end up with the
> > > same problem again. Even if I figure out how to see the SSD, I'll
> > > get it formatted down to 40G and lose the other 200G of space and
> > > have no room
> > to
> > > install Linux.
> > >
> > > So, the two questions I have for the computer wizards out there are:
> > >
> > > 1. Has anybody used a Sabrent USB-DSC8 to connect to an external
> > > SSD, and how do I get the computer to recognize the SSD drive?
> > >
> > > 2. How do I copy Windows to the Curcial SSD without formatting it
> > > down to 40G so I have room for Linux and data expansion? Or should
> > > I install
> > Linux
> > > on the new SSD first and then copy the XP system in?
> > >
> > > Or am I going about this all wrong and I need to start over farther
> back.
> > >
> > > Years ago I had a 200G hard drive on my home desktop computer, when
> > > that was huge, and it became flaky. I bought a 1T drive to replace
> > > it and copied the entire drive over using the software that came
> > > with the new drive. Now I can only access 200G on my 1T drive. At
> > > the time it didn't worry me as I was more concerned with the drive
> > > being flaky. In the intervening years I've used up most of the 200G
> > > and I'd love to use more space on my desktop, but I can't get at it.
> > > I don't want the same thing
> > to
> > > happen to my SSD. Losing 1/3 of my USB is a nuisance. Losing 80%
> > > of my SSD is not acceptable, especially when I need more space now.
> > >
> > > The other thing that happened was while I was trying to download
> > > TUXBOOT
> > &
> > > ? I seem to have gotten way more than I wanted and every time I
> > > connect
> > to
> > > the internet I get a constant stream of popup windows with
> > > advertising
> > that
> > > I have to keep closing and then they open a browser window even
> > > though I said close. I tried to uninstall some of it, but it seems
> > > to have
> > deleted
> > > something that is required to uninstall software and I can't
> > > uninstall anything now. Bummer!
> > >
> > > I'm sorry about such a long rambling e-mail, but I thought with
> > > enough details there was a better chance of getting an answer than
> > > resolves the problem.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > Murray R. McKee
> > >
> > > Operating Systems Analyst
> > > Mainframe/Midrange Services
> > >
> > > Wells Fargo Compute Platform Services | 800 Walnut Street | Des
> > > Moines, IA 50309-3605 MAC N0001-037 Tel 515-557-6127 | Cell
> > > 515-343-6630 | Fax 515-557-6046 | Text pager:
> > > 5153436630 at vtext.com
> > >
> > > MurrayMcKee at WellsFargo.com
> > >
> > > TOG Recognition
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:57:13 -0500
> > > From: Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Backup of user machines
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <
> > > CAM_0QiXTT+dCvGCorH6HCEPFS5sW2MVR7A+v7cf+hxPbdSEBBw at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > I will give CrashPlan my +1 as well. Works great for us. We have a
> > > freenas install running and CrashPlan is running in a jail. From
> > > there
> > you
> > > just install the client, and point it at the name of the freenas
> install.
> > > Works great!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 1:47 PM, c <cbpurcell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Haven't found the how tos, but according to this page you can back
> > > > up
> > to
> > > > any computer or drive with internet access.
> > > > http://www.code42.com/crashplan/features/backup-destinations/#offs
> > > > ite
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the brevity. On a plane right now, typing from my phone.
> > > > On Aug 16, 2014 11:25 AM, "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, c wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Crashplan. http://www.code42.com/crashplan/
> > > > > >
> > > > > Didn't know it could use our servers - can you point me to those
> > docs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Lee
> > > > >
> > > > > > Purcell
> > > > > > On Aug 16, 2014 10:39 AM, "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would like to have a 'user level' backup system for some of
> > > > > > > our
> > > > users;
> > > > > > > rsnapshot is fine for servers, but managing backups and
> > restoring a
> > > > > file
> > > > > > > is not something for a user.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any recommendations for a 'user friendly' system? Need cross
> > (i.e.
> > > > > Windoze
> > > > > > > 8), .. and use our servers for storage.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > TIA!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lee
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> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:57:55 -0500
> > > From: Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Backup of user machines
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <
> > > CAM_0QiWxnVm1UeStbx9tLRzHs56HrSM7UjNwXSv0UgDOkrrPSQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > Forgot to add it is free if you backup to your own box.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will give CrashPlan my +1 as well. Works great for us. We have
> > > > a freenas install running and CrashPlan is running in a jail.
> > > > From there
> > > you
> > > > just install the client, and point it at the name of the freenas
> > install.
> > > > Works great!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 1:47 PM, c <cbpurcell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Haven't found the how tos, but according to this page you can
> > > >> back up
> > to
> > > >> any computer or drive with internet access.
> > > >> http://www.code42.com/crashplan/features/backup-destinations/#off
> > > >> site
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry for the brevity. On a plane right now, typing from my phone.
> > > >> On Aug 16, 2014 11:25 AM, "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, c wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Crashplan. http://www.code42.com/crashplan/
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > Didn't know it could use our servers - can you point me to
> > > >> > those
> > docs?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Lee
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Purcell
> > > >> > > On Aug 16, 2014 10:39 AM, "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Would like to have a 'user level' backup system for some of
> > > >> > > > our
> > > >> users;
> > > >> > > > rsnapshot is fine for servers, but managing backups and
> > restoring
> > > a
> > > >> > file
> > > >> > > > is not something for a user.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Any recommendations for a 'user friendly' system? Need
> > > >> > > > cross
> > (i.e.
> > > >> > Windoze
> > > >> > > > 8), .. and use our servers for storage.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > TIA!
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Lee
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> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ==============================================
> > > >> > Leland V. Lammert lvl at omnitec.net
> > > >> > Chief Scientist Omnitec Corporation
> > > >> > Network/Internet Consultants www.omnitec.net
> > > >> > ==============================================
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:17:11 -0500 (CDT)
> > > From: "L. V. Lammert" <lvl at omnitec.net>
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Backup of user machines
> > > Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.53.1408161816140.21637 at Mail.omnitec.net>
> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> > >
> > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Scott Yates wrote:
> > >
> > > > Forgot to add it is free if you backup to your own box.
> > > >
> > > The cost is $10 per month per computer, .. no option for your own
> > storage.
> > >
> > > WAY too expensive, .. *especially* when storeGrid is less than 1/10
> > > of that!
> > >
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:24:53 -0500
> > > From: Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Backup of user machines
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <
> > > CAM_0QiUc0L80TpMNPLtW7ELYvcw1nrN-Yqun5mj_v0LxaKzf8Q at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > No, it is free if you use your own boxes to backup.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 6:17 PM, L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Scott Yates wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Forgot to add it is free if you backup to your own box.
> > > > >
> > > > The cost is $10 per month per computer, .. no option for your own
> > > storage.
> > > >
> > > > WAY too expensive, .. *especially* when storeGrid is less than
> > > > 1/10 of that!
> > > >
> > > > Lee
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
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