[Cialug] The Linux Desktop and Window Managers - when is too much?

[Aaron Pilgrim]

Indeed, very much a lame fail on Ubuntu's part. Hence my not adopting pure
Ubuntu. In favour of Mint.
On Jul 25, 2013 1:44 PM, "David Champion" <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Theron said:
> " I didn't initially like Unity when I was heavily using Ubuntu but I got
> used to it and really enjoyed it.  It's a solid option assuming modern
> hardware."
>
> Emphasis on "modern hardware". A dual core i3 with the Intel GMA graphics
> slows to a crawl running Ubuntu 12.10 with Unity. Runs just fine on the
> same hardware with KDE. As of 12.10 there is no option to run 2d, you are
> required to run the 3d effects to use Unity. In my opinion, this is a major
> fail for Ubuntu that they need to address.
>
> The great thing is, it's very easy to change, just "apt-get install kde"
> (or your favorite flavor) and you're good to go.
>
> Having choices is good.
>
> -dc
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org> wrote:
>
> > This is always an interesting question or conversation that leads to TONS
> > of awesome information.  I'm pretty simple when it comes to interfaces I
> > guess on linux.  I didn't initially like Unity when I was heavily using
> > Ubuntu but I got used to it and really enjoyed it.  It's a solid option
> > assuming modern hardware.  Getting to whatever it is I'm trying to do is
> > the only purpose of any interface that I'm working on, and it seems
> pretty
> > solid.
> >
> > Since switching back to fedora I scratched my head with Gnome 3 for some
> > time and rather than switching out, I got used to it and it quickly
> because
> > familiar and easy to use, again assuming modern hardware.  I dunno.  I'm
> > sure if I used KDE I'd have a similar experience.
> >
> > I think for me, as long as the interface allows for easy and direct
> access
> > to the applications I'm using while trying to be an unobtrusive as
> > possible, I'm a happy camper.
> >
> > -theron
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/25/2013 10:39 AM, aaron wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/25/2013 12:12 PM, Dave Hala wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm also a KDE fan.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:05 PM, L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, aaron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  My question to the group is, When is too much? Can there be too much?
> >>>>> Personally I think a more unified WM across all distros will help
> >>>>> greatly bring Linux more in focus of the mass user base.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  If you want 'old style', you have a number of choices. If you want
> >>>> 'current', Gnome3 (and KDE whatever) are your choices.
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally, I liked the simplicity of Gnome3 when it was mainstreamed
> >>>> two
> >>>> years ago and have never looked back.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course, some things are a little headscratching (like the lack of
> >>>> ability to set an 'array' of workspaces in favor of one vertical
> list),
> >>>> but those are easly Googlable.
> >>>>
> >>>> For a server, *IF* I need X at all, I normaly install XFCE.
> >>>>
> >>>>          Lee
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> >> At the start, I tried many DM's in many different Distros. I ran Fedora,
> >> OpenSuse, CentOS, Debian and Ubuntu. I ultimately settled on Debian
> based
> >> distros and thus I now run Mint and Pure Debian, however, if I had the
> >> time, Arch would be my favourite.
> >>
> >> In all honesty, I like the functionality and extreme customisation I
> have
> >> with Mate for my personal desktop. On my servers, if I need a Desktop
> >> manager, I install XFCE or Awesome or Gnome with fall back mode. I used
> >> Debian for my servers, and with Wheezy's introduction, XFCE and Gnome
> are
> >> desktop options at install.
> >>
> >> I'm not against choices, in fact that's one thing I very much love about
> >> Linux. However Choices often confuse the average user and thus will
> >> alienate them. I like the thinking that Ubuntu has with Unity, but I
> don't
> >> like Unity one bit, it's confining and lame for customisation. However,
> >> Ubuntu is the most visible at this time to those non-Linux Enthusiasts
> such
> >> as many of us here. And my thinking is for Linux to really make it to
> the
> >> masses, unification, instead of fragmentation (while still keeping true
> to
> >> our roots) must be a goal.
> >>
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