[Cialug] The Linux Desktop and Window Managers - when is too much?

[David Champion]

Theron said:
" I didn't initially like Unity when I was heavily using Ubuntu but I got
used to it and really enjoyed it.  It's a solid option assuming modern
hardware."

Emphasis on "modern hardware". A dual core i3 with the Intel GMA graphics
slows to a crawl running Ubuntu 12.10 with Unity. Runs just fine on the
same hardware with KDE. As of 12.10 there is no option to run 2d, you are
required to run the 3d effects to use Unity. In my opinion, this is a major
fail for Ubuntu that they need to address.

The great thing is, it's very easy to change, just "apt-get install kde"
(or your favorite flavor) and you're good to go.

Having choices is good.

-dc


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org> wrote:

> This is always an interesting question or conversation that leads to TONS
> of awesome information.  I'm pretty simple when it comes to interfaces I
> guess on linux.  I didn't initially like Unity when I was heavily using
> Ubuntu but I got used to it and really enjoyed it.  It's a solid option
> assuming modern hardware.  Getting to whatever it is I'm trying to do is
> the only purpose of any interface that I'm working on, and it seems pretty
> solid.
>
> Since switching back to fedora I scratched my head with Gnome 3 for some
> time and rather than switching out, I got used to it and it quickly because
> familiar and easy to use, again assuming modern hardware.  I dunno.  I'm
> sure if I used KDE I'd have a similar experience.
>
> I think for me, as long as the interface allows for easy and direct access
> to the applications I'm using while trying to be an unobtrusive as
> possible, I'm a happy camper.
>
> -theron
>
>
>
> On 07/25/2013 10:39 AM, aaron wrote:
>
>> On 07/25/2013 12:12 PM, Dave Hala wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also a KDE fan.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:05 PM, L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, aaron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  My question to the group is, When is too much? Can there be too much?
>>>>> Personally I think a more unified WM across all distros will help
>>>>> greatly bring Linux more in focus of the mass user base.
>>>>>
>>>>>  If you want 'old style', you have a number of choices. If you want
>>>> 'current', Gnome3 (and KDE whatever) are your choices.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I liked the simplicity of Gnome3 when it was mainstreamed
>>>> two
>>>> years ago and have never looked back.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, some things are a little headscratching (like the lack of
>>>> ability to set an 'array' of workspaces in favor of one vertical list),
>>>> but those are easly Googlable.
>>>>
>>>> For a server, *IF* I need X at all, I normaly install XFCE.
>>>>
>>>>          Lee
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>> At the start, I tried many DM's in many different Distros. I ran Fedora,
>> OpenSuse, CentOS, Debian and Ubuntu. I ultimately settled on Debian based
>> distros and thus I now run Mint and Pure Debian, however, if I had the
>> time, Arch would be my favourite.
>>
>> In all honesty, I like the functionality and extreme customisation I have
>> with Mate for my personal desktop. On my servers, if I need a Desktop
>> manager, I install XFCE or Awesome or Gnome with fall back mode. I used
>> Debian for my servers, and with Wheezy's introduction, XFCE and Gnome are
>> desktop options at install.
>>
>> I'm not against choices, in fact that's one thing I very much love about
>> Linux. However Choices often confuse the average user and thus will
>> alienate them. I like the thinking that Ubuntu has with Unity, but I don't
>> like Unity one bit, it's confining and lame for customisation. However,
>> Ubuntu is the most visible at this time to those non-Linux Enthusiasts such
>> as many of us here. And my thinking is for Linux to really make it to the
>> masses, unification, instead of fragmentation (while still keeping true to
>> our roots) must be a goal.
>>
>>
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