[Cialug] Ubuntu Edge

Mon Jul 22 20:58:45 CDT 2013

Firefox came out with a phone OS and new graphic recently for entry level
smart phones.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/

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So, anyone have thoughts on this?

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge

I don't like smartphones but I like the project.  Hopefully they reach
their funding target.

Besides Android, what are the existing, most-similar options?

Nicolai
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Noob here, first message to the group! (Barry Von Ahsen)
   2. Re: Noob here, first message to the group! (Aaron Pilgrim)
   3. Re: Noob here, first message to the group! (Matt Stanton)
   4. Re: Noob here, first message to the group! (aaron)
   5. Ubuntu Edge (Nicolai)
   6. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Scott Yates)
   7. Re: Ubuntu Edge (aaron)
   8. Re: Ubuntu Edge (Jeffrey Ollie)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:23:45 -0500
From: Barry Von Ahsen <barry at vonahsen.com>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Noob here, first message to the group!
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we rotate the meeting locations, we (almost always) update the website
before the meetings, but then they fall off after the meeting date

there is also an email or two that goes out here on the mailing list

-barry

On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:59 PM, aaron wrote:

> On 07/21/2013 11:12 PM, Rob Miller wrote:
>> Aaron:  We are all noobs in our own unique ways.  The CIALUG is such a
>> great org IMHO because we can accept one anothers' noob-i-ness and
continue
>> to help each other.  Let us know if you can come to one of the monthly
>> meetings.  The meetings are a lot of fun.  Rob
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Aaron Pilgrim <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com
>wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/21/2013 08:32 PM, Scott Yates wrote:
>>>
>>>> Welcome to the group!  There are a lot of great members, and a lot you
can
>>>> learn here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Aaron Pilgrim <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>  *Don't know if this is proper, but here goes*
>>>>> Hello CIALUG members,
>>>>>
>>>>> My name is Aaron, and I'm a Linux/*nix/Open Source enthusiast in the
>>>>> extreme. I've been interested in and playing with Linux and Open
Source
>>>>> software ever since I started to use FireFox. I use on a daily bases
many
>>>>> Open Source applications including FireFox, GIMP, Filezilla, VLC and
>>>>> Inkscape on both on Linux and Windows platforms, and for the last four
>>>>> years, I've used a Linux Distro in some form full time with slight,
>>>>> intermittent spats of Windows rolled in. I currently run a full Linux
>>>>> Domain operating on a combination of Debian Wheezy and Linux Mint with
>>>>> Bind
>>>>> and Apache. I'm currently a student, studying to be a PC technician at
>>>>> NIACC in North Iowa. I welcome the opportunity to be a part of this
group
>>>>> and learn what ever I can about Linux and Open Source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you all, Aaron.
>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug>
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>>> Thank you both for the welcome. I look forward to the experience.
>>>
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> Indeed, noobs we all are at some point.
> I do hope to make a meeting, such a gathering of Linux enthusiastic
people intrigues me. I'm rather bored with tech geeks who just wanna
discuss Windows and Games. Not that I'm not a fan of games, just I find the
system as a whole interesting.
>
> Oh, and while I'm on the subject of meetings, where are they held? Are
they held at the same venue every month or do they rotate? The website said
almost nothing of the sort, but a time and date.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:37:19 -0500
From: Aaron Pilgrim <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Noob here, first message to the group!
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On 07/22/2013 03:17 PM, jim kraai wrote:
> "I'm rather bored with tech geeks who just wanna discuss Windows and
Games."
>
> Nice!  Welcome!
>
> At heart, I'm a mathematician.
> My first job as a UNIX sysadmin (AIX var) was during college in 1990.
> I'm a Relational DB enthusiast and SQL expert.
> I'm an off-and-on Linux user starting 1999.
> I've spent half of my career as a programmer and half as a tester, each in
> mostly smaller companies.
>
> If you ever want to discuss any of the sciencey-ologies, you'll find
plenty
> of thoughtful, capable people in this group, also.
>
> --jim
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:59 PM, aaron <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 07/21/2013 11:12 PM, Rob Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Aaron:  We are all noobs in our own unique ways.  The CIALUG is such a
>>> great org IMHO because we can accept one anothers' noob-i-ness and
>>> continue
>>> to help each other.  Let us know if you can come to one of the monthly
>>> meetings.  The meetings are a lot of fun.  Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Aaron Pilgrim <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>   On 07/21/2013 08:32 PM, Scott Yates wrote:
>>>>   Welcome to the group!  There are a lot of great members, and a lot
you
>>>>> can
>>>>> learn here!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Aaron Pilgrim <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>    *Don't know if this is proper, but here goes*
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello CIALUG members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is Aaron, and I'm a Linux/*nix/Open Source enthusiast in the
>>>>>> extreme. I've been interested in and playing with Linux and Open
Source
>>>>>> software ever since I started to use FireFox. I use on a daily bases
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> Open Source applications including FireFox, GIMP, Filezilla, VLC and
>>>>>> Inkscape on both on Linux and Windows platforms, and for the last
four
>>>>>> years, I've used a Linux Distro in some form full time with slight,
>>>>>> intermittent spats of Windows rolled in. I currently run a full Linux
>>>>>> Domain operating on a combination of Debian Wheezy and Linux Mint
with
>>>>>> Bind
>>>>>> and Apache. I'm currently a student, studying to be a PC technician
at
>>>>>> NIACC in North Iowa. I welcome the opportunity to be a part of this
>>>>>> group
>>>>>> and learn what ever I can about Linux and Open Source.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you all, Aaron.
>>>>>> ______________________________****_________________
>>>>>> Cialug mailing list
>>>>>> Cialug at cialug.org
>>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/****listinfo/cialug<
http://cialug.org/mailman/**listinfo/cialug>
>>>>>> <http://cialug.**org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<
http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug>
>>>>>>    ______________________________****_________________
>>>>>>
>>>>> Cialug mailing list
>>>>> Cialug at cialug.org
>>>>> http://cialug.org/mailman/****listinfo/cialug<
http://cialug.org/mailman/**listinfo/cialug>
>>>>> <http://cialug.**org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<
http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug>
>>>>>   Thank you both for the welcome. I look forward to the experience.
>>>> ______________________________****_________________
>>>> Cialug mailing list
>>>> Cialug at cialug.org
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http://cialug.org/mailman/**listinfo/cialug>
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http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug>
>>>>   ______________________________**_________________
>>> Cialug mailing list
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>>>
>> Indeed, noobs we all are at some point.
>> I do hope to make a meeting, such a gathering of Linux enthusiastic
people
>> intrigues me. I'm rather bored with tech geeks who just wanna discuss
>> Windows and Games. Not that I'm not a fan of games, just I find the
system
>> as a whole interesting.
>>
>> Oh, and while I'm on the subject of meetings, where are they held? Are
>> they held at the same venue every month or do they rotate? The website
said
>> almost nothing of the sort, but a time and date.
>>
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> Cialug mailing list
>> Cialug at cialug.org
>> http://cialug.org/mailman/**listinfo/cialug<
http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug>
>>
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I look forward to such conversations Jim, that sounds interesting.
And thank you Barry for the information, I'll look forward for the notices.

-- Regards Aaron, A.K.A ~A.M.P~
"The day one loses themself, is the day they lose the world" - A.M.P.

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:39:25 -0500
From: Matt Stanton <matt at itwannabe.com>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Noob here, first message to the group!
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Clonezilla and LiveCD/DVDs FTW!  And when you're ready to really find some
fun problems, the Kali/Backtrack Live DVD can come in handy.  ;)

-- Matt (N0BOX)

Sent from my ASUS Transformer

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Flattery <sean.r.flattery at gmail.com>
To: cialug at cialug.org
Sent: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Noob here, first message to the group!

Welcome to the group! As PC tech I'm sure you'll have lots of opportunities
using Linux to fix windows systems :D
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:55:23 -0500
From: aaron <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Noob here, first message to the group!
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On 7/22/2013 4:39 PM, Matt Stanton wrote:
> Clonezilla and LiveCD/DVDs FTW!  And when you're ready to really find
some fun problems, the Kali/Backtrack Live DVD can come in handy.  ;)
>
> -- Matt (N0BOX)
>
> Sent from my ASUS Transformer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Flattery <sean.r.flattery at gmail.com>
> To: cialug at cialug.org
> Sent: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Noob here, first message to the group!
>
> Welcome to the group! As PC tech I'm sure you'll have lots of
opportunities
> using Linux to fix windows systems :D
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Oh yeah, Clonezilla saved my Windows 7 drive once, I now use it for
back-ups. As for Kali and Backtrack, I'm not a pen tester, but they
are... Interesting distros indeed. :XD

--
Regards Aaron, A.K.A. ~A.M.P.~
"The day one losses themself, is the day they lose the world." - A.M.P.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:58:31 -0500
From: Nicolai <nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org>
To: cialug at cialug.org
Subject: [Cialug] Ubuntu Edge
Message-ID: <20130722215831.GC16331 at vectra.student.iastate.edu>
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So, anyone have thoughts on this?

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge

I don't like smartphones but I like the project.  Hopefully they reach
their funding target.

Besides Android, what are the existing, most-similar options?

Nicolai

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:05:35 -0500
From: Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ubuntu Edge
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I am concerned that if they don't get funded, we don't get re-funded.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Nicolai <nicolai-cialug at chocolatine.org
>wrote:

> So, anyone have thoughts on this?
>
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
>
> I don't like smartphones but I like the project.  Hopefully they reach
> their funding target.
>
> Besides Android, what are the existing, most-similar options?
>
> Nicolai
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug
>

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:13:54 -0500
From: aaron <ampilgrim85 at gmail.com>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ubuntu Edge
Message-ID: <51EDAEA2.1010606 at gmail.com>
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On 7/22/2013 4:58 PM, Nicolai wrote:
> So, anyone have thoughts on this?
>
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
>
> I don't like smartphones but I like the project.  Hopefully they reach
> their funding target.
>
> Besides Android, what are the existing, most-similar options?
>
> Nicolai
> _______________________________________________
> Cialug mailing list
> Cialug at cialug.org
> http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug
My thoughts are that the concept is inspiring, the vision is grand, but
as Scott has pointed out, it all comes down to funding. A project of
that size, even to be taken up by a major backer such Canonical is, in
my opinion, massive. Cynical as I may sound, I hope it comes to be. I
would truly get behind such an project.

Speaking of which, has any one signed up for the developer beta of the
Ubuntu Phone?

--
Regards Aaron, A.K.A. ~A.M.P.~
"The day one losses themself, is the day they lose the world." - A.M.P.

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:27:23 -0500
From: Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us>
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Ubuntu Edge
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On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
> I am concerned that if they don't get funded, we don't get re-funded.

Although the wording on Indiegogo's web site is a little confusing,
I'm pretty sure that Canonical will either get $32M or nothing.  If
Canonical gets nothing, you get your money back within 5 days of the
end of the campaign.  You may be out the processing fees that PayPal
or your CC company charges though.

http://support.indiegogo.com/entries/21081743-Refunds

I've never used Indiegogo (or Kickstarter) myself, but I've never
heard any complaints about Indiegogo (or Kickstarter) not returning
money if they are supposed to (according to their rules).

--
Jeff Ollie

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