[Cialug] Do you wish you were a web programmer?

[Crouse]

+1 Dave Champion

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:42 PM, David Champion <dave at dchamp.net> wrote:
> Some people are very optimistic about the cognitive abilities of your fellow
> human beings. Maybe you need to spend some time doing tech support.
>
> Many people can't or won't comprehend programming logic well enough to allow
> them to write any useful code, even though they may be very intelligent and
> skilled in other areas.
>
> And some people just have no skills at all. Good thing there are lots of
> jobs in reality tv programming.
>
> -dc
>
>
> On 5/17/2012 2:09 PM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>>
>> Not a flame war- a discussion.  There are many sides and many opinions.
>>  And that is OK.
>>
>>
>> -Nate
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On
>> Behalf Of Aaron Korver
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:34 PM
>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Do you wish you were a web programmer?
>>
>> The counter-article to me said "look at me, I got 10,000 hits in an hour!"
>> And thus the conclusion is that the author impacted 10,000 lives?  I don't
>> buy it.  Jeff's article to me said, first learn to solve problems, then
>> learn to communicate and work with others.  After that, if coding is the
>> solution, learn to code.  If planting a garden is the solution, learn to do
>> that.
>>
>> As much as it hurts my ego, technology and coding are not the magic hammer
>> that solves everything.
>>
>> Apologies for starting a sorta-flame war here.
>>
>> Let me start a proper flame-war with this.
>> Emacs sucks!  Vim rules!  :-)
>>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Matthew Nuzum<newz at bearfruit.org>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Aaron Korver<aaron.korver at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> While I'm sure the idea is great, one should look at the counter
>>>> argument to your idea....
>>>>
>>>> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/05/please-dont-learn-to-code.h
>>>> tml
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That article got pretty well beat up. Here is one counter-article:
>>>
>>> http://sachagreif.com/please-learn-to-code/
>>>
>>> I think Jeff's poorly made point is that if you want to learn to code
>>> for fun or profit, learn to code. However, learning to code is not a
>>> skill that everyone needs. To make this more clear, I hear some
>>> advocating that every person should learn to code. I think that makes
>>> as much sense as the OLPC premise that everyone's life will be better if
>>> they have a computer.
>>>
>>> If you are a technical person who uses a computer as a significant
>>> part of their daily work then you will probably benefit by knowing some
>>> coding.
>>> Even if it's just Excel's VBA.
>>>
>>> More and more, the lingua franca is Javascript and the other
>>> technologies that make the web work. (rumor has it that the next
>>> version of Office will use JS) Web programming is becoming an
>>> increasingly important skill.
>>>
>>> I will rest my case with this classic piece by Dilber's creator, Scott
>>> Adams: Computer users are the new sex symbols of the '90s:
>>> http://www.ladybear.com/dilbert.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Matthew Nuzum<newz at bearfruit.org>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, I'm doing some market research on an idea I have. If you
>>>>> are not really a web programmer and sometimes wish you were, would
>>>>> you please
>>>>
>>>> fill
>>>>>
>>>>> out my survey? It has only 8 questions and should take just a moment:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://goo.gl/OQVZ6
>>>>>
>>>>> I greatly appreciate your time and your feedback!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matthew Nuzum
>>>>> newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin and twitter
>>>>>
>>>>> ♫ You're never fully dressed without a smile! ♫
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>
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