[Cialug] Do you wish you were a web programmer?

[David Champion]

Some people are very optimistic about the cognitive abilities of your 
fellow human beings. Maybe you need to spend some time doing tech support.

Many people can't or won't comprehend programming logic well enough to 
allow them to write any useful code, even though they may be very 
intelligent and skilled in other areas.

And some people just have no skills at all. Good thing there are lots of 
jobs in reality tv programming.

-dc

On 5/17/2012 2:09 PM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> Not a flame war- a discussion.  There are many sides and many opinions.  And that is OK.
>
>
> -Nate
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Korver
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:34 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Do you wish you were a web programmer?
>
> The counter-article to me said "look at me, I got 10,000 hits in an hour!"
> And thus the conclusion is that the author impacted 10,000 lives?  I don't buy it.  Jeff's article to me said, first learn to solve problems, then learn to communicate and work with others.  After that, if coding is the solution, learn to code.  If planting a garden is the solution, learn to do that.
>
> As much as it hurts my ego, technology and coding are not the magic hammer that solves everything.
>
> Apologies for starting a sorta-flame war here.
>
> Let me start a proper flame-war with this.
> Emacs sucks!  Vim rules!  :-)
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Matthew Nuzum<newz at bearfruit.org>  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Aaron Korver<aaron.korver at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> While I'm sure the idea is great, one should look at the counter
>>> argument to your idea....
>>>
>>> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/05/please-dont-learn-to-code.h
>>> tml
>>>
>>>
>> That article got pretty well beat up. Here is one counter-article:
>>
>> http://sachagreif.com/please-learn-to-code/
>>
>> I think Jeff's poorly made point is that if you want to learn to code
>> for fun or profit, learn to code. However, learning to code is not a
>> skill that everyone needs. To make this more clear, I hear some
>> advocating that every person should learn to code. I think that makes
>> as much sense as the OLPC premise that everyone's life will be better if they have a computer.
>>
>> If you are a technical person who uses a computer as a significant
>> part of their daily work then you will probably benefit by knowing some coding.
>> Even if it's just Excel's VBA.
>>
>> More and more, the lingua franca is Javascript and the other
>> technologies that make the web work. (rumor has it that the next
>> version of Office will use JS) Web programming is becoming an increasingly important skill.
>>
>> I will rest my case with this classic piece by Dilber's creator, Scott
>> Adams: Computer users are the new sex symbols of the '90s:
>> http://www.ladybear.com/dilbert.html
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Matthew Nuzum<newz at bearfruit.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> Hello, I'm doing some market research on an idea I have. If you
>>>> are not really a web programmer and sometimes wish you were, would
>>>> you please
>>> fill
>>>> out my survey? It has only 8 questions and should take just a moment:
>>>>
>>>> http://goo.gl/OQVZ6
>>>>
>>>> I greatly appreciate your time and your feedback!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matthew Nuzum
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>>>>
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