[Cialug] New hosting solution

Wed Jan 20 15:33:20 CST 2010

I think the 3 GB might be more of a problem since they have a 1 GB 
limit.

I'm in a similar situation. I have a personal server that has a few GB 
of my own photos up for my family to view. Amount of CPU/bandwidth used 
is very low. But the storage is a bit high. So far i've never seen a 
hosted plan that is cheaper than just running my own server because 
every plan always provides too little storage space.

On 2010-01-20 at 15:29:10, Afan Pasalic wrote:
>I have an account at hostmonster.com and I had Gallery2 installed on
> it. the Gallery had tons of pictures, over 3GB but number of visitors
> are in tens a day. The Gallery was accessible for Family, cousins and
> some friends. I think it would be ok with your policy.
>
>Though, to add new images I used the Gallery2 feature: FTP images on
> the server in temp directory. Then G2 will take them and make an
> album. Usually between 50 and 150 images will be processed. Almost
> every time after I run the G2 it will block my account for 5-10
> minutes because I used more process then I'm allowed. But, when I
> talked to tech support they said if it's ok with me - it's ok with
> them too to block me. It was ok with me: better that way then upload
> image by image. :-)
>
>If I "harass" the processor 2-3 times a month because of G2 - would
> you close mu account?
>
>Afan
>
>Matt Breitbach wrote:
>> From Dreamhost :
>>
>> 7.Servers are shared with other customers, and as such IRC-related
>> activities or severely CPU intensive CGI scripts (e.g. chat scripts,
>> scripts which have bugs causing them to not close properly after
>> being run, etc.) are not encouraged. Any application that listens
>> for inbound network connections (even if the application would
>> otherwise be allowed) are not permitted. BitTorrent clients, proxy
>> servers/scripts, IRC bots and bouncers (BNC) specifically may not be
>> run on any DreamHost Web Hosting server. If your processes are
>> adversely affecting server performance disproportionately DreamHost
>> Web Hosting reserves the right to negotiate additional charges with
>> the Customer and/or the discontinuation of the offending processes.
>>
>> From GoDaddy :
>>
>> You agree Go Daddy reserves the right to remove Your web site
>> temporarily or permanently from its servers if Go Daddy is the
>> recipient of activities that threaten the stability of its network.
>>
>> From 1&1 :
>>
>> 7.16.
>> You shall at all times use Web Site Space exclusively as a
>> conventional Web Site. You shall not use the Web Site Space or Your
>> Services in any way which may result in an excessive load on the 1&1
>> Equipment, including but not limited to installing or running web
>> proxies, using your allotted space as online backup or storage, or
>> mirroring mass downloads. Use of Web Site Space and Your Services
>> shall be in a manner consistent with this Agreement and shall not in
>> any way impair the functioning or operation of 1&1's Equipment or
>> network. Should your use of the 1&1 Services result in an overly
>> high load on the 1&1 Equipment, in 1&1's sole discretion, 1&1 may
>> suspend your account until the cause of any such overload is
>> determined and resolved.
>>
>> 14.4.
>> You further agree that in the event that 1&1 believes, in its sole
>> discretion, that you have breached any provision(s) of Section 7 of
>> this Agreement, or any of its subparts, by storing or allowing
>> material such as that described in the aforementioned Section 7, or
>> any of its subparagraphs, to be transmitted by 1&1's Equipment, that
>> 1&1 may without any liability to you, and in addition to any other
>> remedies, erase or purge such materials from 1&1's Equipment without
>> prior notice to you.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd say that most, if not all hosting companies have some verbiage
>> in their TOS that allows them to disable and delete an account if it
>> is abusing the servers.  For a buck a month, I'm certainly going to
>> shut down a blog that has 10,000 readers and consistently puts a .3
>> load on a shared server.  Most websites don't do that though.  The
>> verbiage is there simply to let people know that they shouldn't try
>> to host kcci.com on a 1 dollar a month plan, or try to use their
>> site as an FTP dump.  I don't expect that I will immediately delete
>> any site that accidentally spikes the CPU due to unexpected load,
>> but I do want to have verbiage that lets me delete
>> iamagooglehacker.com from my server immediately when they try port
>> scanning all of googles servers from my datacenter.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org]
>> On Behalf Of Todd Walton
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:02 PM
>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] New hosting solution
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Matt Breitbach
>>
>> <matthewb at flash.shanje.com> wrote:
>>> The policy of monopolizing CPU/Bandwidth/Memory is pretty standard
>>> across all hosting platforms.  If you look at anyone's TOS, it
>>> usually says something very similar.  We just decided not to bury
>>> it.
>>
>> Including the deleting part?  I always thought standard procedure
>> was to throttle resource usage before it gets out of hand, not to
>> ask users to do it and then take drastic action when they mess up.
>>
>> --
>> Todd
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