[Cialug] Mailling List Admin

[Nathan C. Smith]

By gmail hosting 50% the conversation they effectively get 100% of the conversation via replies and build a mosaic of who is talking to who.

I don't care if my ISP reads my mail, what I don't want is a mega group like Google to be one-stop-shopping for the NSA, FBI, what-have-you, for all the conversations going on in the U.S.  If the government is going to eavesdrop and information gather they need to work for it with things like Carnivore, and whatever the follow-on to that is.  It should not be too easy for them.

Oh crap that looks like paranoid rambling, the beams must be penetrating, where'd I put my tinfoil hat?

-Nate

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From: cialug-bounces at cialug.org [mailto:cialug-bounces at cialug.org] On Behalf Of Tim Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:08 AM
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Mailling List Admin

You bring up a good point, however that doesn't fix the perception that I've read about.  I agree with you, but there are people that think that since Google is scanning e-mail, that itself is an invasion of privacy because they are "looking" at your e-mail.  For some people, it boils down to do you trust Google when you KNOW they're scanning e-mail, or do you trust your ISP when you *think* they aren't?  Of course, it depends on the ISP.  I'm sure my ISP isn't reading my e-mail, right Dave? :)

Judging by the "Going Google" topic, I'd say there are people who don't trust Google, even in our educated group, so they will stay as far away from GMail as they would from Hotmail.

Note, I do use GMail; 90% of my e-mail goes through GMail, or Google for my domain.  But I do recognize that there are those who would rather die than trust "those bastards at Google" just because Google scans e-mails.  Again, that's their perception, even though as you point out, there's probably layers of security keeping someone from personally reading your e-mail.  At least, e-mail stored on their servers.  As the e-mail flows across the internet, that is another issue.


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Todd Walton <tdwalton at gmail.com<mailto:tdwalton at gmail.com>> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com<mailto:tim_linux at wilson-home.com>> wrote:
> There is the perception that there is less of a "big brother" factor with an
> ISP.

Wow.  I would so totally perceive just the opposite, myself.  I trust
Google or Yahoo! or even Microsoft (though not far) to have layers of
big company security and protocol in place to prevent any sort of
intrusion or invasion of privacy.  I do not trust my local ISP's
admin, who by the way is tasked with doing a lot more and therefore
has a lot more power, to never take a peek.

But anyway, the last time I looked at my ISPs email option, they were
just rebranding Yahoo!, so it was a moot point.

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Todd
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