[Cialug] distro for ibook

[Tim Champion]

"I do find it interesting that a lot of F/OSS
people use a Mac..."

That's because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Or, Linux isn't Windows, and neither is a Mac.
Also Mac OSX is very Unix-y, and so is Linux.

Tim Champion
timchampion at gmail.com


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:08 PM, David Champion <dave at dchamp.net> wrote:

> The same could be said for just about any OS... like with Windows,
> there's an included zip / unzip function, but it's very rudimentary. I
> use 7zip, but a lot of Windows people pay money for something like WinZIP.
>
> The Mac OS update pricing is more expensive than Windows - if you add up
> everything. I know you're comparing Apples to... whatever Windows is...
> but...
>
> The Linux desktop experience has changed a lot in recent years. IMHO,
> KDE4.x is really nice, try it out with one of the live CD's like Kubuntu
> or Mandriva One. I don't like Gnome personally, so someone else can talk
> about that, but from what I've seen it's pretty good as well.
>
> I understand that some people like Mac better, and Bryan knows I love to
> rib him about it... ;) I do find it interesting that a lot of F/OSS
> people use a Mac...
>
> -dc
>
> Bryan Baker wrote:
> > I'm sure that's the way you feel, and that's fine and all, but there
> > are a couple things I feel I should point out about this mini-rant:
> >
> > Unzip (and zip) is a function built into the OS. Just double click on
> > it and it'll unzip for you. Are there paid alternatives that add
> > features? Yes. Do you need them to be able to unzip a program? No.
> > iirc, the zip and unzip commands present on Linux are also available
> > on the default install command line (though it might only be if you
> > install the dev tools). I could be wrong on this point, but even if
> > they are missing, that brings me to point 2:
> >
> > Installing Mac Ports brings a vast majority of the set of F/OSS tools
> > to you via the simple command "port install <pkg>" (much like apt-get)
> > and if you really want apt-get, use fink. Either way, you have both
> > the F/OSS toolset and the proprietary toolset that you can pay for,
> > it's all your option. I tend to prefer doing both in one OS.
> >
> > I also have certain tools that just aren't available to me on any
> > other OS that are essential parts of my workflow, so it's my choice.
> >
> > I will admit, that it's been a long time since I really gave Linux a
> > shot on the desktop, but for me, I've been quite happy with the
> > balance that OSX gives me. Is it perfect? Hell no. Is Linux?
> >
> > On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> >
> >> The OS is nicer than Windows XP but it is far from bug free. It has
> >> about the same number of glitches and problems as newer versions of
> >> Ubuntu. They have good commercials and ads but people who say that
> >> Mac OS is way better than Linux either haven't used Linux (esp
> >> Ubuntu) recently or have drank a little too much of the koolaid.
> >>
> >> The biggest difference (not better necessarily) is the available/
> >> reliance on commercial ISVs. Want a nice unzip program? Pay $10.
> >> Want a screencast program? Pay $99. Want this or that? Pay, pay,
> >> pay. The cost of owning Mac OS goes up after you open the box.
> >> However, the screencast program is very good. Worth $99 imho. And
> >> there are other examples where I'd pay for a similar top-notch
> >> program if one existed for Ubuntu.
> >>
>
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