"I do find it interesting that a lot of F/OSS<br>
people use a Mac..."<br><br>That's because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.<br>Or, Linux isn't Windows, and neither is a Mac. <br>Also Mac OSX is very Unix-y, and so is Linux.<br><br clear="all">Tim Champion<br>
<a href="mailto:timchampion@gmail.com">timchampion@gmail.com</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:08 PM, David Champion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@dchamp.net">dave@dchamp.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
The same could be said for just about any OS... like with Windows,<br>
there's an included zip / unzip function, but it's very rudimentary. I<br>
use 7zip, but a lot of Windows people pay money for something like WinZIP.<br>
<br>
The Mac OS update pricing is more expensive than Windows - if you add up<br>
everything. I know you're comparing Apples to... whatever Windows is...<br>
but...<br>
<br>
The Linux desktop experience has changed a lot in recent years. IMHO,<br>
KDE4.x is really nice, try it out with one of the live CD's like Kubuntu<br>
or Mandriva One. I don't like Gnome personally, so someone else can talk<br>
about that, but from what I've seen it's pretty good as well.<br>
<br>
I understand that some people like Mac better, and Bryan knows I love to<br>
rib him about it... ;) I do find it interesting that a lot of F/OSS<br>
people use a Mac...<br>
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Bryan Baker wrote:<br>
> I'm sure that's the way you feel, and that's fine and all, but there<br>
> are a couple things I feel I should point out about this mini-rant:<br>
><br>
> Unzip (and zip) is a function built into the OS. Just double click on<br>
> it and it'll unzip for you. Are there paid alternatives that add<br>
> features? Yes. Do you need them to be able to unzip a program? No.<br>
> iirc, the zip and unzip commands present on Linux are also available<br>
> on the default install command line (though it might only be if you<br>
> install the dev tools). I could be wrong on this point, but even if<br>
> they are missing, that brings me to point 2:<br>
><br>
> Installing Mac Ports brings a vast majority of the set of F/OSS tools<br>
> to you via the simple command "port install <pkg>" (much like apt-get)<br>
> and if you really want apt-get, use fink. Either way, you have both<br>
> the F/OSS toolset and the proprietary toolset that you can pay for,<br>
> it's all your option. I tend to prefer doing both in one OS.<br>
><br>
> I also have certain tools that just aren't available to me on any<br>
> other OS that are essential parts of my workflow, so it's my choice.<br>
><br>
> I will admit, that it's been a long time since I really gave Linux a<br>
> shot on the desktop, but for me, I've been quite happy with the<br>
> balance that OSX gives me. Is it perfect? Hell no. Is Linux?<br>
><br>
> On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Matthew Nuzum wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The OS is nicer than Windows XP but it is far from bug free. It has<br>
>> about the same number of glitches and problems as newer versions of<br>
>> Ubuntu. They have good commercials and ads but people who say that<br>
>> Mac OS is way better than Linux either haven't used Linux (esp<br>
>> Ubuntu) recently or have drank a little too much of the koolaid.<br>
>><br>
>> The biggest difference (not better necessarily) is the available/<br>
>> reliance on commercial ISVs. Want a nice unzip program? Pay $10.<br>
>> Want a screencast program? Pay $99. Want this or that? Pay, pay,<br>
>> pay. The cost of owning Mac OS goes up after you open the box.<br>
>> However, the screencast program is very good. Worth $99 imho. And<br>
>> there are other examples where I'd pay for a similar top-notch<br>
>> program if one existed for Ubuntu.<br>
>><br>
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