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[neal daringer]

my point is that i never have serious enough power outage that i cant 
deal with it. if there is that serious enough of a power outage, then so 
be it. in the long run i save far more money not paying for sub-par service.

POTS is just that "plain OLD telephone service". and it will remain that 
way until the bells lose the capitalist greed bugle and start providing 
better cost to service business. i don't see why i should pay 
$44.99/month for unlimited local and long distance. thats what a cell 
phone should cost. and to top that off why is long distance considered a 
seperate service still?? with the ability to use IP for 
telecommunications, why is it still costing so much? and why are 
features (caller id, call waiting, etc)always extra from bell companies?

i know i know the answer i will pry get at first is "because they can 
turn a larger profit and no serious compitition". so lets hear some 
other arguments.

Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
> That was my point. Cheaper to use POTS than to try and "cover" the
> faults of the cable companies.
>
> As much as I like to take shots at the phone companies, they are hands
> down better at reliability than the cable companies.
>
>
> On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 16:35 +0000, jaybabel at mchsi.com wrote:
>   
>> I thought the original question was about home service.  I guess all
>> these generators and UPS systems in the backyard cut down on mowing in
>> the summer but it seems like overkill.  I just have a POTS line.
>>         -------------- Original message from "Dave J. Hala Jr."
>>         <dave at 58ghz.net>: -------------- 
>>         
>>         
>>         > Ditch the diesel generator. Switch an lp/hydrogen
>>         generator. 
>>         > 
>>         > For $15,000 you can have a 1.8 megawatt wind generator with
>>         the 
>>         > inverter, 50ft tower and the electronics to tie it the grid
>>         at 240vac. 
>>         > Compliment that with a $26,000 solar array and a $15,000
>>         hydrogen 
>>         > generator. Get $5,000 worth the marine batteries. 
>>         > 
>>         > Instead of hooking it to the grid and thereby subsidizing
>>         your local 
>>         > coal burning power plant, build your own little power grid
>>         to power your 
>>         > stuff. Use the excess electricity to charge the batteries
>>         and to produce 
>>         > hydrogen. Store the hydrogen in an lp tank. When there's no
>>         sun, use 
>>         > the hydrogen to run the generator. You can also use the
>>         hydrogen to heat 
>>         > your house. 
>>         > ; 
>>         > This way the only thing you have to worry about is a lawn
>>         mower running 
>>         > over the coax cable that mediacom laid on the ground from
>>         the pole to 
>>         > the house. 
>>         > 
>>         > 
>>         > :) Dave 
>>         > 
>>         > On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 09:55 -0600, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: 
>>         > > On 12/5/07, neal daringer wrote: 
>>         > > > 
>>         > > > if all else fails, just use a CB radio. 
>>         > > 
>>         > > And don't forget to store a generator and a spare set of
>>         radio 
>>         > > equipment inside a Faraday cage to protect against those
>>         nasty EMP 
>>         > > pulses. And you probably need to buy some gear to produce
>>         biodiesel 
>>         > > too since you probably can't count on fuel trucks coming
>>         by to fill up 
>>         > > your diesel tank. 
>>         > > 
>>         > > ;) 
>>         > > 
>>         > > Jeff 
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