OT [Cialug] Time for Suse funeral?

Josh More morej at alliancetechnologies.net
Mon Nov 7 13:11:32 CST 2005


Both are (I believe) GPL. 
 
When I said there was no choice, I was referring to business reasons. 
Novell already has several developers familiar with the Gnome world, 
and they only had one KDE developer.  If they had to focus on a desktop,

the choice was pretty obvious. 
 
 
 



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-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
morej at alliancetechnologies.net
515-245-7701

>>>smith at ipmvs.com 11/07/05 12:58 pm >>>
Is one (gnome or KDE) more free than the other? 
  
  
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Josh More [mailto:morej at alliancetechnologies.net]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:50 PM
To: cialug at cialug.org
Subject: Re: OT [Cialug] Time for Suse funeral?

They chose Gnome over KDE because they own Ximian now. 
Really, they didn't have a choice there. 
  



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-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
morej at alliancetechnologies.net
515-245-7701

>>>dave at visionary.com 11/07/05 12:47 pm >>>
I find it curious that they chose Gnome over KDE, when they're
developing a business-oriented distribution.

Gnome is neat... but IMHO KDE is better suited for a business desktop
environment - especially if you're coming from a Windows environment.

-dc

Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:
>I don't know if I agree about it being hard to move dev's from one
>project to another.   Maybe it is hard to do in a larger organization.
>For me, I change projects all the time. Its kinda like: Do what pays or
>starve
>
>Its always bumpy switching to another code base. Somedays I look at
some
>of the code I'll be working on and think I'd rather starve, but thats
>just the way life is.
>
>It seems ironic to use the phrase Change direction and focus But if
>your target moves, you gotta move. I think software development
>now-a-days is more like dropping laser guided smart bombs. Pick your
>target, if it moves, adjust. After the big explosion, move on to the
>next target.
>
>:) Dave
>
>On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:48, Josh More wrote:
>
>>I actually brought this up with one their development directors at the
>>last conference.
>>I believe I used the phrase just pick a horse and back it, already.
>>
>>He replied that the reason they don't do that is that you can't just
>>move
>>devs from one project to another, and that picking one horse means
>>laying everyone else off.  Apparently things have changed.
>>
>>FWIW, I am running SUSE 10 and find it to quite usable.
>>
>>I am also on the fence regarding the KDE/Gnome thing.
>>My main issue right now is that I really like konqueror and krename.
>>If, at the next meeting, someone can show me how to easilly set
>>open with and do mass renaming in a Gnome environment, I would
>>appreciate it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP
>>morej at alliancetechnologies.net
>>515-245-7701
>>
>>
>>>>>dave at 58ghz.net 11/07/05 11:05 am >>>
>>
>>My experience with Novell, is that they have always made great
>>products
>>-for Geeks. (I switched to Linux before Netware 5, so I can't comment
>>on
>>that one)
>>
>>That said, my main gripe with Novell is that they have never been
>>really
>>focused.  They're all over the place.
>>
>>I was glad to see the move to Linux and granted it was a bold move,
>>but
>>it made sense. However, they did go linux and went about ten differant
>>directions at once. I'm glad to see them have a little tighter focus.
>>
>>One could say Novell went a bunch of differant directions with Linux,
>>so
>>that they could see what was to become a viable component of their
>>business. (I do this alot) However, I think they worked hard and had a
>>little luck on their side. I really doubt that it was planned.
>>
>>That said, I'm a little disappointed to see some of the focus move off
>>of Evolution, but there a billion things that could be done to improve
>>Gnome, and that is good thing. (Even though I prefer KDE).
>>
>>:) Dave
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 10:44, David Stout wrote:
>>
>>>For those who are interested this article explanins the rumor.
>>>
>>>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1882118,00.asp
>>>
>>>Aaron Jensen <aaron at aaronjensen.net> wrote:
>>>      I wouldn't be getting too worked up.  Looking like the whole
>>>      article was based on rumor as Novell made an announcement
>>
>>this
>>
>>>      morning that the whole article was false.  What was announced
>>>      is that they will be removing KDE and switching to GNOME.
>>>      
>>>      Aaron
>>>      
>>>      On 11/7/05, Lee <leeh at csi-rics.com> wrote:
>>>              If you read the responses at the bottom of that page
>>>              (assuming they can
>>>              be believed). it sounds like author of that article
>>>              may have taken
>>>              things out of perspective, to say the least.
>>>              
>>>              Anthony Jeffries wrote:
>>>              
>>>              >On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:07:52AM -0600, Paul Gray
>>>              wrote:
>>>              >
>>>              >
>>>              >>On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 05:43:53AM -0800, David
>>>              Stout wrote:
>>>              >>
>>>              >>
>>>              >>>I have a newer computer that I was hoping to load
>>>              SuSe 10.0 on. Now what? Any suggestions?
>>>              >>>
>>>              >>>
>>>              >>Debian, of course.
>>>              >>
>>>              >>Just trying to help.
>>>              >>
>>>              >>
>>>              >
>>>              >Along a similar line (i.e. Debian-like distros), try
>>>              Ubuntu
>>>              >(www.ubuntulinux.org). I'm using that on my laptop
>>>              now.
>>>              >
>>>              >
>>>              >
>>>              
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