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<DIV>When I said there was no choice, I was referring to business reasons.
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<DIV>Novell already has several developers familiar with the Gnome world,
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<DIV><br><br><br>-- <br>-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP<br> morej@alliancetechnologies.net<br> 515-245-7701<br><br>>>>smith@ipmvs.com 11/07/05 12:58 pm >>><br>
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<DIV> <font size="2" face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Josh More [mailto:morej@alliancetechnologies.net]<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 07, 2005 12:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> cialug@cialug.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: OT [Cialug] Time for Suse funeral?<br><br></font>
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<DIV> They chose Gnome over KDE because they own Ximian now.
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<DIV> Really, they didn't have a choice there.
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--<br>-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP<br>morej@alliancetechnologies.net<br>515-245-7701<br><br>>>>dave@visionary.com 11/07/05 12:47 pm >>><br>I find it curious that they chose Gnome over KDE, when they're<br>developing a business-oriented distribution.<br><br>Gnome is neat... but IMHO KDE is better suited for a business desktop<br>environment - especially if you're coming from a Windows environment.<br><br>-dc<br><br>Dave J. Hala Jr. wrote:<br>>I don't know if I agree about it "being hard to move dev's from one<br>>project to another".   Maybe it is hard to do in a larger organization.<br>>For me, I change projects all the time. Its kinda like: "Do what pays or<br>>starve"<br>><br>>Its always bumpy switching to another code base. Somedays I look at some<br>>of the code I'll be working on and think I'd rather starve, but thats<br>>just the way life is.<br>><br>>It seems ironic to use the phrase "Change direction and focus" But if<br>>your target moves, you gotta move. I think software development<br>>now-a-days is more like dropping laser guided smart bombs. Pick your<br>>target, if it moves, adjust. After the big explosion, move on to the<br>>next target.<br>><br>>:) Dave<br>><br>>On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:48, Josh More wrote:<br>><br>>>I actually brought this up with one their development directors at the<br>>>last conference.<br>>>I believe I used the phrase "just pick a horse and back it, already".<br>>><br>>>He replied that the reason they don't do that is that you can't just<br>>>move<br>>>devs from one project to another, and that picking one horse means<br>>>laying everyone else off.  Apparently things have changed.<br>>><br>>>FWIW, I am running SUSE 10 and find it to quite usable.<br>>><br>>>I am also on the fence regarding the KDE/Gnome thing.<br>>>My main issue right now is that I really like konqueror and krename.<br>>>If, at the next meeting, someone can show me how to easilly set<br>>>"open with" and do mass renaming in a Gnome environment, I would<br>>>appreciate it.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>--<br>>>-Josh More, RHCE, CISSP, NCLP<br>>>morej@alliancetechnologies.net<br>>>515-245-7701<br>>><br>>><br>>>>>>dave@58ghz.net 11/07/05 11:05 am >>><br>>><br>>>My experience with Novell, is that they have always made great<br>>>products<br>>>-for Geeks. (I switched to Linux before Netware 5, so I can't comment<br>>>on<br>>>that one)<br>>><br>>>That said, my main gripe with Novell is that they have never been<br>>>really<br>>>focused.  They're all over the place.<br>>><br>>>I was glad to see the move to Linux and granted it was a bold move,<br>>>but<br>>>it made sense. However, they did go linux and went about ten differant<br>>>directions at once. I'm glad to see them have a little tighter focus.<br>>><br>>>One could say Novell went a bunch of differant directions with Linux,<br>>>so<br>>>that they could "see" what was to become a "viable" component of their<br>>>business. (I do this alot) However, I think they worked hard and had a<br>>>little luck on their side. I really doubt that it was "planned".<br>>><br>>>That said, I'm a little disappointed to see some of the focus move off<br>>>of Evolution, but there a billion things that could be done to improve<br>>>Gnome, and that is good thing. (Even though I prefer KDE).<br>>><br>>>:) Dave<br>>><br>>><br>>>On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 10:44, David Stout wrote:<br>>><br>>>>For those who are interested this article explanins the rumor.<br>>>><br>>>>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1882118,00.asp<br>>>><br>>>>Aaron Jensen <aaron@aaronjensen.net> wrote:<br>>>>      I wouldn't be getting too worked up.  Looking like the whole<br>>>>      article was based on rumor as Novell made an announcement<br>>><br>>>this<br>>><br>>>>      morning that the whole article was false.  What was announced<br>>>>      is that they will be removing KDE and switching to GNOME.<br>>>>      <br>>>>      Aaron<br>>>>      <br>>>>      On 11/7/05, Lee <leeh@csi-rics.com> wrote:<br>>>>              If you read the responses at the bottom of that page<br>>>>              (assuming they can<br>>>>              be believed). it sounds like author of that article<br>>>>              may have taken<br>>>>              things out of perspective, to say the least.<br>>>>              <br>>>>              Anthony Jeffries wrote:<br>>>>              <br>>>>              >On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:07:52AM -0600, Paul Gray<br>>>>              wrote:<br>>>>              ><br>>>>              ><br>>>>              >>On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 05:43:53AM -0800, David<br>>>>              Stout wrote:<br>>>>              >><br>>>>              >><br>>>>              >>>I have a newer computer that I was hoping to load<br>>>>              SuSe 10.0 on. Now what? Any suggestions?<br>>>>              >>><br>>>>              >>><br>>>>              >>Debian, of course.<br>>>>              >><br>>>>              >>Just trying to help.<br>>>>              >><br>>>>              >><br>>>>              ><br>>>>              >Along a similar line (i.e. Debian-like distros), try<br>>>>              Ubuntu<br>>>>              >(www.ubuntulinux.org). I'm using that on my laptop<br>>>>              now.<br>>>>              ><br>>>>              ><br>>>>              ><br>>>>              <br>>>>              <br>>>>              Cialug mailing list<br>>>>              Cialug@cialug.org<br>>>>              http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br>>>>      <br>>>>      <br>>>>      Cialug mailing list<br>>>>      Cialug@cialug.org<br>>>>      http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>>David Stout<br>>>>BTS Billing Team<br>>>>Data Repository & Reports<br><br><br>Cialug mailing list<br>Cialug@cialug.org<br>http://cialug.org/mailman/listinfo/cialug<br> </DIV>
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