[Cialug] Theron's AlienWare Saga

[Theron Conrey]

just a few of the scary parts from the XP Home EULA:

3. RESERVATION OF RIGHTS AND OWNERSHIP. Microsoft reserves all rights 
not expressly granted to you in this EULA. The Software is protected by 
copyright and other intellectual property laws and treaties. Microsoft 
or its suppliers own the title, copyright, and other intellectual 
property rights in the Software. The Software is licensed, not sold.

6. CONSENT TO USE OF DATA. You agree that Microsoft and its affiliates 
may collect and use technical information gathered as part of the 
product support services provided to you, if any, related to the 
Software. Microsoft may use this information solely to improve our 
products or to provide customized services or technologies to you and 
will not disclose this information in a form that personally identifies you.

14. TERMINATION. Without prejudice to any other rights, Microsoft may 
terminate this EULA if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions 
of this EULA. In such event, you must destroy all copies of the Software 
and all of its component parts.

Theron


Theron Conrey wrote:

> I assumed that because you are an upstanding citizen you don't use 
> illegal software.  If you got a new laptop from a store, I'd be 
> surprised that it just booted up without having you agree to the EULA 
> first.  If it was used then I'm not surprised.  However, by using it 
> you are still subject to it.
>
> Here's the EULA for XP Pro.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/eula.mspx
>
> Theron
>
>
> n.d wrote:
>
>> who said i ever purchased a lisence?
>>
>> now that i think of it. i don't know anyone who has. i've had 
>> previous employers who purchase volume lisences and just hand out 
>> lisence like they are candy (i'm sure they weren't supposed to). i 
>> won't name names for obvious reasons.
>>
>> when i got my laptop, it booted past the EULA and i never saw it in 
>> the packaging now that i think of it.
>>
>> where can i find this EULA? i'd like to read it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Theron Conrey wrote:
>>
>>> It's friggin scary.  I'm not a zealot for disagreeaging with it.  I 
>>> can't even believe that anyone computer savy or no, that has an 
>>> inkling of understanding the english language, would agree to it.  
>>> Take the time to read it and you might be surprised that that you've 
>>> never purchased a copy of Windows software.  They maintain 
>>> ownership, you're just purchasing a license to use it.  Oh, that and 
>>> they can revoke your license for (legal mumbo jumbo) basically any 
>>> reason they see fit.  It goes downhill ( a long way downhill) from 
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Theron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> n.d wrote:
>>>
>>>> wasn't sure on the media they gave it to you on. if its in a 
>>>> restore cd, then it should be greatly reduced in value (whatever 
>>>> value windows has). IMHO it should be illegal to bundle software 
>>>> together like that. isn't that kinda what the whole anti-trust 
>>>> thing was about? the license should be transferable, right? i 
>>>> haven't read that windows EULA so i wouldn't know about that 
>>>> situation.
>>>>
>>>> Theron Conrey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You mean the alienware restore cd?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> n.d wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> if it comes down to it couldn't you just sell the windows cd on 
>>>>>> ebay?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Theron Conrey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> also posted email sent starting the paper trail at the request 
>>>>>>> of the AG :)
>>>>>>> Theron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenneth Ristau wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you haven't had a chance, check out Thereon's very good site
>>>>>>>> detailing the troubles AlienWare is giving him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.conrey.org/alien
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After reading that, you may want to check out their "Mission 
>>>>>>>> Statement" at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.alienware.com/sub_pages/company_info_vision.aspx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't sound to me like they are honoring their own values, 
>>>>>>>> such as:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Under "Innovation"
>>>>>>>> - Take informed risks as port of the creative thinking process.
>>>>>>>> - Challenge the status quo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Under "Service"
>>>>>>>> - Understand and meet customers' needs with patience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Under "Communication"
>>>>>>>> - Clearly communicate intentions and expectations to your 
>>>>>>>> customers and
>>>>>>>> co-workers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Under "Performance"
>>>>>>>> - Perform work with uncompromising ethics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I especially like that last one, but they are all good.  Check 
>>>>>>>> them out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> later,
>>>>>>>> kristau
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
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