[Cialug] Theron's AlienWare Saga

[Theron Conrey]

I assumed that because you are an upstanding citizen you don't use 
illegal software.  If you got a new laptop from a store, I'd be 
surprised that it just booted up without having you agree to the EULA 
first.  If it was used then I'm not surprised.  However, by using it you 
are still subject to it.

Here's the EULA for XP Pro.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/eula.mspx

Theron


n.d wrote:

> who said i ever purchased a lisence?
>
> now that i think of it. i don't know anyone who has. i've had previous 
> employers who purchase volume lisences and just hand out lisence like 
> they are candy (i'm sure they weren't supposed to). i won't name names 
> for obvious reasons.
>
> when i got my laptop, it booted past the EULA and i never saw it in 
> the packaging now that i think of it.
>
> where can i find this EULA? i'd like to read it?
>
>
>
> Theron Conrey wrote:
>
>> It's friggin scary.  I'm not a zealot for disagreeaging with it.  I 
>> can't even believe that anyone computer savy or no, that has an 
>> inkling of understanding the english language, would agree to it.  
>> Take the time to read it and you might be surprised that that you've 
>> never purchased a copy of Windows software.  They maintain ownership, 
>> you're just purchasing a license to use it.  Oh, that and they can 
>> revoke your license for (legal mumbo jumbo) basically any reason they 
>> see fit.  It goes downhill ( a long way downhill) from there.
>>
>> Theron
>>
>>
>>
>> n.d wrote:
>>
>>> wasn't sure on the media they gave it to you on. if its in a restore 
>>> cd, then it should be greatly reduced in value (whatever value 
>>> windows has). IMHO it should be illegal to bundle software together 
>>> like that. isn't that kinda what the whole anti-trust thing was 
>>> about? the license should be transferable, right? i haven't read 
>>> that windows EULA so i wouldn't know about that situation.
>>>
>>> Theron Conrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> You mean the alienware restore cd?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> n.d wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> if it comes down to it couldn't you just sell the windows cd on ebay?
>>>>>
>>>>> Theron Conrey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> also posted email sent starting the paper trail at the request of 
>>>>>> the AG :)
>>>>>> Theron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kenneth Ristau wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you haven't had a chance, check out Thereon's very good site
>>>>>>> detailing the troubles AlienWare is giving him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.conrey.org/alien
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading that, you may want to check out their "Mission 
>>>>>>> Statement" at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.alienware.com/sub_pages/company_info_vision.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't sound to me like they are honoring their own values, 
>>>>>>> such as:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under "Innovation"
>>>>>>> - Take informed risks as port of the creative thinking process.
>>>>>>> - Challenge the status quo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under "Service"
>>>>>>> - Understand and meet customers' needs with patience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under "Communication"
>>>>>>> - Clearly communicate intentions and expectations to your 
>>>>>>> customers and
>>>>>>> co-workers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under "Performance"
>>>>>>> - Perform work with uncompromising ethics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I especially like that last one, but they are all good.  Check 
>>>>>>> them out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> later,
>>>>>>> kristau
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
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