[Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
n00b
cialug@cialug.org
Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:45:34 -0500
$750? wow and you call vonage pricey? how many people can you service for
$750/month?
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Weis <djweis@sjdjweis.com>
To: cialug@cialug.org
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:58:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Jonathan Bailey wrote:
> > 1. Hardware. You'd be looking at a 2Ghz-ish box with at least a gig
> of
> > memory.
> > 2. Bandwidth. Marshallnet - I think they have some to spare :-D
> Don't know
> > if it would be at the colo rate or what.
> > 3. Termination/local DIDs - probably get a fractional T1 from qwest,
> but can
> > you get DSM DIDs in Marshalltown, etc?
> > 4. LD - Probably go through IAXtel or similar - ~2cents/min or so, I
> think.
>
> The box wouldn't have to be quite that beefy but probably close. I will
> offer the service if we have enough people pre signup. Monthly cost
> will
> be about $750 for me to do it including the qwest circuit and getting
> it
> to my location.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
> Behalf Of
> > Nathan C. Smith
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:25 AM
> > To: 'cialug@cialug.org'
> > Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area
> ISPs)
> >
> >
> > So how would an asterisk Coop work? We would need:
> > a machine,
> > a place to host it
> > Internet bandwidth with necessary room and/or QoS a small race of
> elf-like
> > genius computer operators to manage it.
> >
> > People could get individual accounts from companies like voicepulse
> or
> > Nufone and just host them on the box, that could make it easy to
> skirt
> > billing issues. What codecs would we allow, what protocols to
> connect? IAX
> > and/or SIP? (forgone conclusion: no h.323!).
> >
> > There is a new version of the IAXy out, I don't know if the firmware
> is any
> > different (improved) or not. I have one of the netweb phones loaded
> with
> > IAX, it works fine too, but you cannot configure it with multiple
> hosts like
> > you can the IAXy. BTW, if you use Windows there is a really good
> IAXy
> > provisioning tool available.
> >
> > Pulvers' thing is Bellster - I know the name changed, but I can't
> think of
> > it right now either.
> >
> > The IAXY's are kind of overpriced when you compare them to the
> capabilities
> > of a Sipura 2000, but the Sipura's only support SIP at this time.
> >
> > -Nate
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:46 AM
> > To: cialug@cialug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree on the whole co-op asterisk thing! Actually, there's a
> project
> > that Jeff Pulver started to do just that sort of thing on a national
> or
> > international scale. I can't remember the name at the moment.
> >
> > I really like my iaxy's I've setup about 5 of them with great
> success
> > with all of them. The best part is that there are no NAT woes with
> > them! One of my iaxy's I bridge to the wireless network so I can
> have
> > an extension in a room that otherwise has no phone options.
> >
> > The only thing that concerns me is that there is absolutely no
> security
> > on the device. Anyone on the local network can re-provision it!
> Maybe
> > it's more secure if you setup iaxy provisioning from asterisk, but
> I've
> > never tried. I use them both on local networks as well as over the
> > internet just fine!
> >
> > One of my business partners keeps his at his store on a mediacom
> > connection and the pbx is on a dsl line and it works great! I've
> also
> > trunked the business pbx to my home pbx for my extensions and have it
> > roll out to my cell phone if I'm not reached on the VOIP network.
> >
> > -Tom
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
> >
> >> It's kind of silly that so many people in our group are throwing
> their
> >> money
> >> at Vonage when we could do so some kind of a co-op thing with
> Asterisk.
> >> There are several outbound services like nufone that let you keep an
> >> account
> >> balance and bill it as you use the minutes, a much less expensive
> >> proposition than Vonage. We just need a provider like *cough*
> >> Internetsolver who could provide inbound DIDs.
> >>
> >> Tom, what has your experience with the IAXy been like? I've had
> mixed
> >> results with the one I've tried, using it in a DHCP environment.
> >>
> >> Freese-notis is also busy exploring VOIP and hopes to terminate DIDs
> >> in the
> >> future.
> >>
> >> -Nate
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:45 AM
> >> To: cialug@cialug.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It's a shame that vonage aren't asterisk friendly on your first
> line.
> >>
> >> In my house, I use a mix of grandstream budgetone phones
> >> (http://grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm) and Digium's iaxy's connected
> to
> >> normal phones (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=iaxy) to talk to
> >> my asterisk pbx.
> >>
> >> I've used VoicePulse's connect service
> >> (http://connect.voicepulse.com/) to get an inbound DID, but
> >> unfortunately, they don't have any Iowa numbers yet.
> >>
> >> -Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:26 PM, n00b wrote:
> >>
> >>> you can have 2 seperate lines on my adapter (linksys pap2). check
> the
> >>> configuration of whatever device you get as to how many lines it
> >>> supports.
> >>>
> >>> i have all the phones in my house on the same line on my pap2. this
> >>> was easy for me (sine i have cable). with cable, you just
> disconnect
> >>> qwests lines from your phone network terminal outside, getting rid
> of
> >>> any voltage that could be coming in from them, then plug a cord
> into
> >>> your phone adapter and the other end into a wall jack. any phone
> that
> >>> was on the same line as that jack should have dialtone. with dsl
> i'm
> >>> not sure how you'd do
> >>> this same setup except for running new phone wires everywhere in
> your
> >>> home. i use a cordless so its kinda like the benifit of wifi. no
> need
> >>> to
> >>> run extra wires.
> >>>
> >>> hope this helps. if you want a more through explanation on how to
> do
> >>> a better setup look in vonages help pages.
> >>>
> >>> neal
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: "Alan Maupin" <alan.maupin@mchsi.com>
> >>> To: <cialug@cialug.org>
> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:09:37 -0500
> >>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
> >>>
> >>>> Jon, -- how do I setup two phone's on Vonage, up and down stairs?
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been looking into getting Vonage to replace Quest phone
> >>>> service. At first glance it looks very good with all of the free
> >>>> options such as 3-way calling and the email/phone integration.
> The
> >>>> problem I've run into is
> >>>> having a phone setup on the first and second floor of my home.
> >>>> According to
> >>>> the Vonage representative I can only use one broadband phone
> adapter
> >>>> per
> >>>> phone line since it involves the mac address of the phone adapter.
> I
> >>>> would
> >>>> connect the phone adapter to my router upstairs and connect a
> phone
> >>>> to
> >>>> it.
> >>>> The problem is how do I connect my phone downstairs?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
> >>>> Behalf Of Bailey, Jonathan C
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM
> >>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
> >>>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
> >>>>
> >>>> If the DSL kept going out whenever your phone rings, that usually
> >>>> means you
> >>>> aren't using filters.. Had that with a local business..
> Embarassing
> >>>> call to
> >>>> tech support..
> >>>>
> >>>> As for VoIP, I'm switching to Vonage to keep my local number when
> I
> >>>> move. Just waiting to see if Qwest will switch me to standalone
> DSL
> >>>> or just disconnect me completely when the LNP is done.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of Tim Perdue
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:37 PM
> >>>> To: cialug@cialug.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> timwilson011@mchsi.com wrote:
> >>>>> Mediacom, basically because that's what I signed up with 4+ years
> >>>> ago. At
> >>>> that
> >>>>> time, DSL couldn't give the bandwidth cable could. It still
> can't,
> >>>> but it
> >>>> is
> >>>>> much better than it used to be. I've been toying with the idea
> of
> >>>> switching to
> >>>>> DSL (and InternetSolver), but just haven't been pushed (read:
> >>>>> pissed
> >>>> off)
> >>>> enough
> >>>>> I guess.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I wonder whatever happened to multiple ISPs on cable...
> >>>>
> >>>> I had really good luck with Mediacom for ~4 years, but switched to
> >>>> DSL (freese notis) so I could have a fixed IP and servers online.
> >>>> VOIP seems to be happier with DSL too. The cable modem network
> >>>> apparently has no UPS anywhere, as it is offline as soon as your
> >>>> house lights dim.
> >>>>
> >>>> DSL was going offline a lot whenever the phone would ring, but I
> >>>> finally just canceled the phone service and it works fine now.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim
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