[Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
Jon Clemons
cialug@cialug.org
Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:48:40 -0500
But that isn't a PRI I'll bet. Sounds like an Internet T1.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Champion" <dave@visionary.com>
To: <cialug@cialug.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
> I've got some pricing recently. An outfit called Bandwidth.com (similar to
> Progressive Insurance - they get the lowest quotes) cold called me, and
> told me they could get me a Qwest T1 on a 2 year contract for $395 /
> month. That's a pretty good deal.
>
> -dc
>
> Bailey, Jonathan C wrote:
>> When you say there is a usage cost for porting, is that a price/min for
>> porting a DSM # to a Marshalltown T1? $585 isn't too bad for a T1 (well,
>> as far as I understand). Maybe this could work out for everyone..
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On Behalf
>> Of Jon Clemons
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:37 PM
>> To: cialug@cialug.org
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>>
>>
>>
>> I have plenty of spare bandwidth:)
>> The only issue with DID's for Des Moines and Marshalltown
>> is porting them to the same PRI is based on usage and
>> costly. Due to cost a half span PRI is not cost effective
>> because right now on a 3 yr contract you can get the full 23 channels
>> for $585.00 on the retail side. I guess I could check my CLEC pricing
>> too and see where it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Bailey" <jcbailey@code0.net>
>> To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:58 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>>
>>
>>
>>>1. Hardware. You'd be looking at a 2Ghz-ish box with at least a gig of
>>>memory.
>>>2. Bandwidth. Marshallnet - I think they have some to spare :-D Don't
>>>know
>>>if it would be at the colo rate or what.
>>>3. Termination/local DIDs - probably get a fractional T1 from qwest, but
>>>can
>>>you get DSM DIDs in Marshalltown, etc?
>>>
>>>4. LD - Probably go through IAXtel or similar - ~2cents/min or so, I
>>>think.
>>>
>>>BTW, Pulvers VoIP service is Free World Dialup (FWD).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jon
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On Behalf
>>>Of
>>>Nathan C. Smith
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:25 AM
>>>To: 'cialug@cialug.org'
>>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>>>
>>>
>>>So how would an asterisk Coop work? We would need:
>>>a machine,
>>>a place to host it
>>>Internet bandwidth with necessary room and/or QoS a small race of
>>>elf-like
>>>genius computer operators to manage it.
>>>
>>>People could get individual accounts from companies like voicepulse or
>>>Nufone and just host them on the box, that could make it easy to skirt
>>>billing issues. What codecs would we allow, what protocols to connect?
>>>IAX
>>>and/or SIP? (forgone conclusion: no h.323!).
>>>
>>>There is a new version of the IAXy out, I don't know if the firmware is
>>>any
>>>different (improved) or not. I have one of the netweb phones loaded with
>>>IAX, it works fine too, but you cannot configure it with multiple hosts
>>>like
>>>you can the IAXy. BTW, if you use Windows there is a really good IAXy
>>>provisioning tool available.
>>>
>>>Pulvers' thing is Bellster - I know the name changed, but I can't think
>>>of
>>>it right now either.
>>>
>>>The IAXY's are kind of overpriced when you compare them to the
>>>capabilities
>>>of a Sipura 2000, but the Sipura's only support SIP at this time.
>>>
>>>-Nate
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:46 AM
>>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I agree on the whole co-op asterisk thing! Actually, there's a project
>>>that Jeff Pulver started to do just that sort of thing on a national or
>>>international scale. I can't remember the name at the moment.
>>>
>>>I really like my iaxy's I've setup about 5 of them with great success
>>>with all of them. The best part is that there are no NAT woes with
>>>them! One of my iaxy's I bridge to the wireless network so I can have
>>>an extension in a room that otherwise has no phone options.
>>>
>>>The only thing that concerns me is that there is absolutely no security
>>>on the device. Anyone on the local network can re-provision it! Maybe
>>>it's more secure if you setup iaxy provisioning from asterisk, but I've
>>>never tried. I use them both on local networks as well as over the
>>>internet just fine!
>>>
>>>One of my business partners keeps his at his store on a mediacom
>>>connection and the pbx is on a dsl line and it works great! I've also
>>>trunked the business pbx to my home pbx for my extensions and have it
>>>roll out to my cell phone if I'm not reached on the VOIP network.
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>On Apr 14, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's kind of silly that so many people in our group are throwing their
>>>>money
>>>>at Vonage when we could do so some kind of a co-op thing with Asterisk.
>>>>There are several outbound services like nufone that let you keep an
>>>>account
>>>>balance and bill it as you use the minutes, a much less expensive
>>>>proposition than Vonage. We just need a provider like *cough*
>>>>Internetsolver who could provide inbound DIDs.
>>>>
>>>>Tom, what has your experience with the IAXy been like? I've had mixed
>>>>results with the one I've tried, using it in a DHCP environment.
>>>>
>>>>Freese-notis is also busy exploring VOIP and hopes to terminate DIDs
>>>>in the
>>>>future.
>>>>
>>>>-Nate
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:45 AM
>>>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's a shame that vonage aren't asterisk friendly on your first line.
>>>>
>>>>In my house, I use a mix of grandstream budgetone phones
>>>>(http://grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm) and Digium's iaxy's connected to
>>>>normal phones (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=iaxy) to talk to
>>>>my asterisk pbx.
>>>>
>>>>I've used VoicePulse's connect service
>>>>(http://connect.voicepulse.com/) to get an inbound DID, but
>>>>unfortunately, they don't have any Iowa numbers yet.
>>>>
>>>>-Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:26 PM, n00b wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>you can have 2 seperate lines on my adapter (linksys pap2). check the
>>>>>configuration of whatever device you get as to how many lines it
>>>>>supports.
>>>>>
>>>>>i have all the phones in my house on the same line on my pap2. this
>>>>>was easy for me (sine i have cable). with cable, you just disconnect
>>>>>qwests lines from your phone network terminal outside, getting rid of
>>>>>any voltage that could be coming in from them, then plug a cord into
>>>>>your phone adapter and the other end into a wall jack. any phone that
>>>>>was on the same line as that jack should have dialtone. with dsl i'm
>>>>>not sure how you'd do
>>>>>this same setup except for running new phone wires everywhere in your
>>>>>home. i use a cordless so its kinda like the benifit of wifi. no need
>>>>>to
>>>>>run extra wires.
>>>>>
>>>>>hope this helps. if you want a more through explanation on how to do
>>>>>a better setup look in vonages help pages.
>>>>>
>>>>>neal
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: "Alan Maupin" <alan.maupin@mchsi.com>
>>>>>To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>>>>>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:09:37 -0500
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jon, -- how do I setup two phone's on Vonage, up and down stairs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been looking into getting Vonage to replace Quest phone
>>>>>>service. At first glance it looks very good with all of the free
>>>>>>options such as 3-way calling and the email/phone integration. The
>>>>>>problem I've run into is
>>>>>>having a phone setup on the first and second floor of my home.
>>>>>>According to
>>>>>>the Vonage representative I can only use one broadband phone adapter
>>>>>>per
>>>>>>phone line since it involves the mac address of the phone adapter. I
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>connect the phone adapter to my router upstairs and connect a phone
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>The problem is how do I connect my phone downstairs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Bailey, Jonathan C
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM
>>>>>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>>>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If the DSL kept going out whenever your phone rings, that usually
>>>>>>means you
>>>>>>aren't using filters.. Had that with a local business.. Embarassing
>>>>>>call to
>>>>>>tech support..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As for VoIP, I'm switching to Vonage to keep my local number when I
>>>>>>move. Just waiting to see if Qwest will switch me to standalone DSL
>>>>>>or just disconnect me completely when the LNP is done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On
>>>>>>Behalf
>>>>>>Of Tim Perdue
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:37 PM
>>>>>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>timwilson011@mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mediacom, basically because that's what I signed up with 4+ years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ago. At
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>time, DSL couldn't give the bandwidth cable could. It still can't,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>but it
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>much better than it used to be. I've been toying with the idea of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>switching to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DSL (and InternetSolver), but just haven't been pushed (read:
>>>>>>>pissed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>off)
>>>>>>enough
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I wonder whatever happened to multiple ISPs on cable...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had really good luck with Mediacom for ~4 years, but switched to
>>>>>>DSL (freese notis) so I could have a fixed IP and servers online.
>>>>>>VOIP seems to be happier with DSL too. The cable modem network
>>>>>>apparently has no UPS anywhere, as it is offline as soon as your
>>>>>>house lights dim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DSL was going offline a lot whenever the phone would ring, but I
>>>>>>finally just canceled the phone service and it works fine now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tim
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