[Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
David Champion
cialug@cialug.org
Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:46:45 -0500
I've got some pricing recently. An outfit called Bandwidth.com (similar
to Progressive Insurance - they get the lowest quotes) cold called me,
and told me they could get me a Qwest T1 on a 2 year contract for $395 /
month. That's a pretty good deal.
-dc
Bailey, Jonathan C wrote:
> When you say there is a usage cost for porting, is that a price/min for porting a DSM # to a Marshalltown T1? $585 isn't too bad for a T1 (well, as far as I understand). Maybe this could work out for everyone..
>
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>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On Behalf
> Of Jon Clemons
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:37 PM
> To: cialug@cialug.org
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>
>
>
> I have plenty of spare bandwidth:)
> The only issue with DID's for Des Moines and Marshalltown
> is porting them to the same PRI is based on usage and
> costly. Due to cost a half span PRI is not cost effective
> because right now on a 3 yr contract you can get the full 23 channels
> for $585.00 on the retail side. I guess I could check my CLEC pricing
> too and see where it is.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Bailey" <jcbailey@code0.net>
> To: <cialug@cialug.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>
>
>
>>1. Hardware. You'd be looking at a 2Ghz-ish box with at least a gig of
>>memory.
>>2. Bandwidth. Marshallnet - I think they have some to spare :-D Don't
>>know
>>if it would be at the colo rate or what.
>>3. Termination/local DIDs - probably get a fractional T1 from qwest, but
>>can
>>you get DSM DIDs in Marshalltown, etc?
>>
>>4. LD - Probably go through IAXtel or similar - ~2cents/min or so, I
>>think.
>>
>>BTW, Pulvers VoIP service is Free World Dialup (FWD).
>>
>>
>>
>>Jon
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On Behalf
>>Of
>>Nathan C. Smith
>>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:25 AM
>>To: 'cialug@cialug.org'
>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] Asterisk, IAXYs and IAX (was Des Moines Area ISPs)
>>
>>
>>So how would an asterisk Coop work? We would need:
>>a machine,
>>a place to host it
>>Internet bandwidth with necessary room and/or QoS a small race of
>>elf-like
>>genius computer operators to manage it.
>>
>>People could get individual accounts from companies like voicepulse or
>>Nufone and just host them on the box, that could make it easy to skirt
>>billing issues. What codecs would we allow, what protocols to connect?
>>IAX
>>and/or SIP? (forgone conclusion: no h.323!).
>>
>>There is a new version of the IAXy out, I don't know if the firmware is
>>any
>>different (improved) or not. I have one of the netweb phones loaded with
>>IAX, it works fine too, but you cannot configure it with multiple hosts
>>like
>>you can the IAXy. BTW, if you use Windows there is a really good IAXy
>>provisioning tool available.
>>
>>Pulvers' thing is Bellster - I know the name changed, but I can't think of
>>it right now either.
>>
>>The IAXY's are kind of overpriced when you compare them to the
>>capabilities
>>of a Sipura 2000, but the Sipura's only support SIP at this time.
>>
>>-Nate
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:46 AM
>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>
>>
>>
>>I agree on the whole co-op asterisk thing! Actually, there's a project
>>that Jeff Pulver started to do just that sort of thing on a national or
>>international scale. I can't remember the name at the moment.
>>
>>I really like my iaxy's I've setup about 5 of them with great success
>>with all of them. The best part is that there are no NAT woes with
>>them! One of my iaxy's I bridge to the wireless network so I can have
>>an extension in a room that otherwise has no phone options.
>>
>>The only thing that concerns me is that there is absolutely no security
>>on the device. Anyone on the local network can re-provision it! Maybe
>>it's more secure if you setup iaxy provisioning from asterisk, but I've
>>never tried. I use them both on local networks as well as over the
>>internet just fine!
>>
>>One of my business partners keeps his at his store on a mediacom
>>connection and the pbx is on a dsl line and it works great! I've also
>>trunked the business pbx to my home pbx for my extensions and have it
>>roll out to my cell phone if I'm not reached on the VOIP network.
>>
>>-Tom
>>
>>On Apr 14, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Nathan C. Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It's kind of silly that so many people in our group are throwing their
>>>money
>>>at Vonage when we could do so some kind of a co-op thing with Asterisk.
>>>There are several outbound services like nufone that let you keep an
>>>account
>>>balance and bill it as you use the minutes, a much less expensive
>>>proposition than Vonage. We just need a provider like *cough*
>>>Internetsolver who could provide inbound DIDs.
>>>
>>>Tom, what has your experience with the IAXy been like? I've had mixed
>>>results with the one I've tried, using it in a DHCP environment.
>>>
>>>Freese-notis is also busy exploring VOIP and hopes to terminate DIDs
>>>in the
>>>future.
>>>
>>>-Nate
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Pohl [mailto:tom@tcpconsulting.com]
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:45 AM
>>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's a shame that vonage aren't asterisk friendly on your first line.
>>>
>>>In my house, I use a mix of grandstream budgetone phones
>>>(http://grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm) and Digium's iaxy's connected to
>>>normal phones (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=iaxy) to talk to
>>>my asterisk pbx.
>>>
>>>I've used VoicePulse's connect service
>>>(http://connect.voicepulse.com/) to get an inbound DID, but
>>>unfortunately, they don't have any Iowa numbers yet.
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>On Apr 13, 2005, at 8:26 PM, n00b wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>you can have 2 seperate lines on my adapter (linksys pap2). check the
>>>>configuration of whatever device you get as to how many lines it
>>>>supports.
>>>>
>>>>i have all the phones in my house on the same line on my pap2. this
>>>>was easy for me (sine i have cable). with cable, you just disconnect
>>>>qwests lines from your phone network terminal outside, getting rid of
>>>>any voltage that could be coming in from them, then plug a cord into
>>>>your phone adapter and the other end into a wall jack. any phone that
>>>>was on the same line as that jack should have dialtone. with dsl i'm
>>>>not sure how you'd do
>>>>this same setup except for running new phone wires everywhere in your
>>>>home. i use a cordless so its kinda like the benifit of wifi. no need
>>>>to
>>>>run extra wires.
>>>>
>>>>hope this helps. if you want a more through explanation on how to do
>>>>a better setup look in vonages help pages.
>>>>
>>>>neal
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: "Alan Maupin" <alan.maupin@mchsi.com>
>>>>To: <cialug@cialug.org>
>>>>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:09:37 -0500
>>>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jon, -- how do I setup two phone's on Vonage, up and down stairs?
>>>>>
>>>>>I've been looking into getting Vonage to replace Quest phone
>>>>>service. At first glance it looks very good with all of the free
>>>>>options such as 3-way calling and the email/phone integration. The
>>>>>problem I've run into is
>>>>>having a phone setup on the first and second floor of my home.
>>>>>According to
>>>>>the Vonage representative I can only use one broadband phone adapter
>>>>>per
>>>>>phone line since it involves the mac address of the phone adapter. I
>>>>>would
>>>>>connect the phone adapter to my router upstairs and connect a phone
>>>>>to
>>>>>it.
>>>>>The problem is how do I connect my phone downstairs?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org] On
>>>>>Behalf Of Bailey, Jonathan C
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM
>>>>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>>
>>>>>If the DSL kept going out whenever your phone rings, that usually
>>>>>means you
>>>>>aren't using filters.. Had that with a local business.. Embarassing
>>>>>call to
>>>>>tech support..
>>>>>
>>>>>As for VoIP, I'm switching to Vonage to keep my local number when I
>>>>>move. Just waiting to see if Qwest will switch me to standalone DSL
>>>>>or just disconnect me completely when the LNP is done.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: cialug-admin@cialug.org [mailto:cialug-admin@cialug.org]On
>>>>>Behalf
>>>>>Of Tim Perdue
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:37 PM
>>>>>To: cialug@cialug.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Cialug] Des Moines Area ISPs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>timwilson011@mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Mediacom, basically because that's what I signed up with 4+ years
>>>>>
>>>>>ago. At
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>>time, DSL couldn't give the bandwidth cable could. It still can't,
>>>>>
>>>>>but it
>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>>much better than it used to be. I've been toying with the idea of
>>>>>
>>>>>switching to
>>>>>
>>>>>>DSL (and InternetSolver), but just haven't been pushed (read:
>>>>>>pissed
>>>>>
>>>>>off)
>>>>>enough
>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I wonder whatever happened to multiple ISPs on cable...
>>>>>
>>>>>I had really good luck with Mediacom for ~4 years, but switched to
>>>>>DSL (freese notis) so I could have a fixed IP and servers online.
>>>>>VOIP seems to be happier with DSL too. The cable modem network
>>>>>apparently has no UPS anywhere, as it is offline as soon as your
>>>>>house lights dim.
>>>>>
>>>>>DSL was going offline a lot whenever the phone would ring, but I
>>>>>finally just canceled the phone service and it works fine now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tim