[Cialug] NAS for backup

[David Champion]

With any backup system, you need to do DR tests to verify things, and
you'll get an idea on how long the restore will take, and you'll know how
to do it once you really need it.

The "slow" restore speed isn't unique to Synology. If you want premium
speed, look at the Plus (+) models. Once you get into higher end models you
get options like modular network that lets you choose SFP+ or copper 10gb,
and NVMe flash for buffering.

I've been down the path of building my own FreeNAS servers. They can be
difficult to get just the right hardware together to be fast and reliable,
and you spend quite a bit of time putting them together. Synology is the
"easy button" method.

Synology also has a bunch of apps, like several options for backup, remote
mirroring to another Synology or to just about any cloud storage, syncing
files from servers, an IP camera surveillance system (they do charge extra
for more than 2 cameras), Docker support, etc.

If you want real "enterprise" SAN performance you're looking at Dell/EMC,
NetApp etc. They are great, but do take some care and feeding, and you
could buy a nice car for what some of them cost.

-dc


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 12:28 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> On the DS416's if you need to move backup files to a different device via
> the USB port, it's an order of magnitude slower than advertised.  Secondly,
> if you have > 1Tb of files to be restored via the network, you're going to
> need to bond the network interfaces in the Synology nas and a nic faster
> than 1 Gbs on the device you're restoring to, otherwise you could literally
> spend a week restoring a backup.
>
> If you're in that range > 1TB spend a little extra money and get a
> Synology with a 10 Gbs nic.     Another option for a linux user would be to
> just get a 12 bay rack server and build your own.  It's going to use a lot
> more power and be noisy in the rack, you'll get it back with a lot of extra
> speed when you have to restore or move a backup to a different server or
> provide a customer with a copy of their backup and/or data.
>
> Outside of the use case I described above, the 4 bay Synology's are a good
> choice.  They aren't considered "Enterprise Level", but for a specific use
> case they could be and they are reliable enough to be.
>
> :) Dave
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:59 AM Dan Ramaley <dan at ramaley.net> wrote:
>
>> I second the recommendation for Synology. I got one a couple years ago,
>> been super happy with it. It's real easy to use, and mostly maintains
>> itself.
>>
>> On 2024-02-11 10:42, David Champion wrote:
>> > Synology covers all of this. Have been using them for a long time.
>> >
>> > -dc
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, 11:29 AM L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Any recommendation for a NAS system that will backup Windoze
>> workstations?
>> >>
>> >>   * At least four bays
>> >>   * RAID6
>> >>   * Good Windoze backup, HW restore would be nice, but
>> >>      file restore definitely required
>> >>   * DR rsync offsite to normal Linux storage
>> >>
>> >>          TIA!
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