[Cialug] OT: USB Issues

Scott Yates Scott at yatesframe.com
Tue Jun 14 02:51:02 UTC 2022 

Also, if i had an extra CPU, i would make it available to test.  Anyone
else have one that might fit AM4?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:44 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:

> While it is not for sure, it is VERY often the case that the psu absorbs
> the majority of damage during electrical "events".
>
> Even though the motherboard and things are often more delicate, it always
> seems to affect the PSU more than you would expect.  Sometimes it makes it
> marginal, sometimes it kills it outright.
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:42 PM Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This PC is the same, no speaker. But the MB has a header, so I dug out a
>> speaker from an old PC. I hear some clicks when it powers up, but no
>> beeps.
>> I don’t see an LED display. The power LED blinks when holding the power
>> button, but it never powers down. Gotta flip the PSU switch. I could get a
>> new MB cheap, NewEgg has it on sale. But if it’s the processor, I’d
>> probably switch to Intel instead of AMD.
>> This is the MB I have:
>>
>> https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-wifi/p/N82E16813145164?Item=N82E16813145164&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-145-164-_-06132022
>>
>> I’ll try a different PSU. I tried this last year when I was trying to
>> figure out the noise coming from the USB powered speakers. That turned out
>> to be a fried speaker, 1 of the 3 devices that were connected. Video
>> capture, and external hard drive were the others.  I still don’t
>> understand
>> how there wasn’t damage to the MB, when 3 of the 5 devices that were
>> connected, got fried.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 6:09 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
>>
>> > This is a good point as well.  Though most recent motherboards DO have a
>> > postcode seven segment LED displays right on the motherboard.  Do you
>> see
>> > any lights at all on the board?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:36 PM Nicholas Olson <
>> nicholas.olson83 at gmail.com
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Keeping it simple. Is there even a speaker to generate the beeps?
>> That’s
>> > a
>> > > phenomenon I discovered in the last few years on my Ryzen mobos. I
>> would
>> > > get no beeps on boots whether good or bad. I noticed there was no
>> speaker
>> > > built in or wired to the front panel header pins. Hooking a speaker
>> from
>> > my
>> > > junk drawer to the speaker header and walla. Either the single
>> > ‘everything
>> > > is ok’ beeps, or the POST code for identifying an issue.
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > >
>> > > > On Jun 13, 2022, at 12:56 AM, Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Resurrecting this old thread, need some more help. To get up to
>> speed,
>> > > > there was a lightning strike near my house in October.  There were 3
>> > USB
>> > > > devices hooked up to my gaming tower, not including the KB and
>> mouse.
>> > > All
>> > > > 3 were fried (KB and mouse seemed to be ok).  The computer
>> continued to
>> > > > work, but I was  afraid to plug in anything to the USB ports.
>> > > >
>> > > > In March,  I finally decided to send the motherboard into Gigabyte
>> for
>> > > > warranty repair.  To my surprise, they said there was nothing wrong
>> > with
>> > > > it.  After getting it back, I let it sit for a couple of months, I
>> > wasn’t
>> > > > looking forward to putting it back together.  That was the reason I
>> > > bought
>> > > > a pre-built PC.  I made a mistake in taking it to Best Buy, they
>> said
>> > > they
>> > > > would reassemble it for me.  Thanks to a recent appliance purchase,
>> we
>> > > had
>> > > > their Total Tech, so there wasn’t a charge to assemble it.  I
>> assumed
>> > it
>> > > > would be back to either full working order, or at least back to
>> what it
>> > > was
>> > > > prior to sending it in for repair.  Instead, they said it wouldn’t
>> > boot.
>> > > > Of course, they wanted to sell me a new setup.  I decided to bring
>> it
>> > > home
>> > > > and take a look at it.
>> > > >
>> > > > I thought maybe it would be a bent pin on the processor, or
>> something I
>> > > > could figure out.  Unfortunately, I’m stumped.  I don’t know if it’s
>> > the
>> > > > MB, or processor.  I don’t get any beeps, even without RAM.  I need
>> to
>> > > > either buy new parts, or get it diagnosed.  Does anyone know of a
>> > place I
>> > > > could take it to get it diagnosed?  It’s a Gigabyte MB, AM4 Socket,
>> > > Ryzen 7
>> > > > processor, not quite 3 years old.
>> > > >
>> > > > TIA!
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 10:35 PM Tim Wilson <
>> tim_linux at wilson-home.com
>> > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> My spare PSU didn't have enough 8 pin connectors, so I couldn't
>> plug
>> > in
>> > > my
>> > > >> video card.  But, I hooked up everything else, and not long into
>> the
>> > > boot
>> > > >> process (pre-OS), the noise returned.  It is definitely coming from
>> > the
>> > > >> speakers.  If I shutdown the PC (but leave the PSU on), the
>> speakers
>> > > stay
>> > > >> powered, but no noise.  I should also say that I can plug the
>> speakers
>> > > into
>> > > >> a USB battery and again, no noise.  And the audio comes from a
>> > > connector on
>> > > >> the back of a monitor.  So whatever input is selected on the
>> monitor,
>> > is
>> > > >> where the audio comes from.  But the noise stays regardless of the
>> > input
>> > > >> selected, if the speaker power cable is plugged into my PC.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Would purchasing an add-on USB card fix the issue, or do you think
>> the
>> > > >> noise would follow?  Or should I just bite the bullet and buy a new
>> > MB?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Now I'm having another problem.  When it is on my desk and open, I
>> can
>> > > get
>> > > >> the LEDs to work.  But on the floor, the LEDs are off.  I'm sure
>> it's
>> > a
>> > > >> power issue.  There's a power cable that runs from an ATA power
>> > > connector
>> > > >> to a board that controls the LEDs. I think one of the connectors
>> came
>> > > loose.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Did I say I wish I hadn't bought this thing?  I got scared off from
>> > > >> assembling my own since it had been years since I built my last
>> one.
>> > I
>> > > >> might have to do that after all.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:56 PM L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, David Champion wrote:
>> > > >>>> I have a PC power supply tester that give you a reading on all of
>> > > >>> thevoltages. Also have a multimeter, and we have an o-scope (I'm
>> not
>> > > >>> qualifiedto run but others are) at Area515.
>> > > >>> Would it not be simpler to just order a new PSU? At a cost of
>> $40, ..
>> > > your
>> > > >>> time value would be WELL above that - we keep two or three on the
>> > shelf
>> > > >>> at all times.
>> > > >>>        Lee
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>> > > >> --
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