[Cialug] OT: USB Issues

Tim Wilson tim_linux at wilson-home.com
Sat Jul 2 02:56:28 UTC 2022 

I checked with Dymin. They charged me $20 plus tax to test the processor.
They said it failed. So either I mishandled it or Best Buy did, or the
board fried it. It was working before I sent in the motherboard for
testing. Guess I should’ve taken both to Dymin then. But I thought Gigabyte
would repair it.

So now comes the decision. Buy parts, or buy a new PC? And if I buy parts,
stick with AMD, or go Intel?

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:40 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:

> You might check with Dymin computers
> <https://www.dyminsystems.com/repair-and-sales/>.  They might be able to
> help diagnose.
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 9:32 PM Tim Wilson <tim_linux at wilson-home.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Tried a different PSU, no luck. The fans turn on, I hear a click in the
> > speaker, but no beeps, no video. Is there any place that would test the
> > processor and/or MB for a reasonable fee?
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:52 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Also, if i had an extra CPU, i would make it available to test.  Anyone
> > > else have one that might fit AM4?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:44 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > While it is not for sure, it is VERY often the case that the psu
> > absorbs
> > > > the majority of damage during electrical "events".
> > > >
> > > > Even though the motherboard and things are often more delicate, it
> > always
> > > > seems to affect the PSU more than you would expect.  Sometimes it
> makes
> > > it
> > > > marginal, sometimes it kills it outright.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 9:42 PM Tim Wilson <
> tim_linux at wilson-home.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> This PC is the same, no speaker. But the MB has a header, so I dug
> > out a
> > > >> speaker from an old PC. I hear some clicks when it powers up, but no
> > > >> beeps.
> > > >> I don’t see an LED display. The power LED blinks when holding the
> > power
> > > >> button, but it never powers down. Gotta flip the PSU switch. I could
> > > get a
> > > >> new MB cheap, NewEgg has it on sale. But if it’s the processor, I’d
> > > >> probably switch to Intel instead of AMD.
> > > >> This is the MB I have:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-wifi/p/N82E16813145164?Item=N82E16813145164&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-145-164-_-06132022
> > > >>
> > > >> I’ll try a different PSU. I tried this last year when I was trying
> to
> > > >> figure out the noise coming from the USB powered speakers. That
> turned
> > > out
> > > >> to be a fried speaker, 1 of the 3 devices that were connected. Video
> > > >> capture, and external hard drive were the others.  I still don’t
> > > >> understand
> > > >> how there wasn’t damage to the MB, when 3 of the 5 devices that were
> > > >> connected, got fried.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 6:09 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > This is a good point as well.  Though most recent motherboards DO
> > > have a
> > > >> > postcode seven segment LED displays right on the motherboard.  Do
> > you
> > > >> see
> > > >> > any lights at all on the board?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 5:36 PM Nicholas Olson <
> > > >> nicholas.olson83 at gmail.com
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Keeping it simple. Is there even a speaker to generate the
> beeps?
> > > >> That’s
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > > phenomenon I discovered in the last few years on my Ryzen
> mobos. I
> > > >> would
> > > >> > > get no beeps on boots whether good or bad. I noticed there was
> no
> > > >> speaker
> > > >> > > built in or wired to the front panel header pins. Hooking a
> > speaker
> > > >> from
> > > >> > my
> > > >> > > junk drawer to the speaker header and walla. Either the single
> > > >> > ‘everything
> > > >> > > is ok’ beeps, or the POST code for identifying an issue.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > On Jun 13, 2022, at 12:56 AM, Tim Wilson <
> > > tim_linux at wilson-home.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > Resurrecting this old thread, need some more help. To get up
> to
> > > >> speed,
> > > >> > > > there was a lightning strike near my house in October.  There
> > > were 3
> > > >> > USB
> > > >> > > > devices hooked up to my gaming tower, not including the KB and
> > > >> mouse.
> > > >> > > All
> > > >> > > > 3 were fried (KB and mouse seemed to be ok).  The computer
> > > >> continued to
> > > >> > > > work, but I was  afraid to plug in anything to the USB ports.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > In March,  I finally decided to send the motherboard into
> > Gigabyte
> > > >> for
> > > >> > > > warranty repair.  To my surprise, they said there was nothing
> > > wrong
> > > >> > with
> > > >> > > > it.  After getting it back, I let it sit for a couple of
> > months, I
> > > >> > wasn’t
> > > >> > > > looking forward to putting it back together.  That was the
> > reason
> > > I
> > > >> > > bought
> > > >> > > > a pre-built PC.  I made a mistake in taking it to Best Buy,
> they
> > > >> said
> > > >> > > they
> > > >> > > > would reassemble it for me.  Thanks to a recent appliance
> > > purchase,
> > > >> we
> > > >> > > had
> > > >> > > > their Total Tech, so there wasn’t a charge to assemble it.  I
> > > >> assumed
> > > >> > it
> > > >> > > > would be back to either full working order, or at least back
> to
> > > >> what it
> > > >> > > was
> > > >> > > > prior to sending it in for repair.  Instead, they said it
> > wouldn’t
> > > >> > boot.
> > > >> > > > Of course, they wanted to sell me a new setup.  I decided to
> > bring
> > > >> it
> > > >> > > home
> > > >> > > > and take a look at it.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I thought maybe it would be a bent pin on the processor, or
> > > >> something I
> > > >> > > > could figure out.  Unfortunately, I’m stumped.  I don’t know
> if
> > > it’s
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > MB, or processor.  I don’t get any beeps, even without RAM.  I
> > > need
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > > either buy new parts, or get it diagnosed.  Does anyone know
> of
> > a
> > > >> > place I
> > > >> > > > could take it to get it diagnosed?  It’s a Gigabyte MB, AM4
> > > Socket,
> > > >> > > Ryzen 7
> > > >> > > > processor, not quite 3 years old.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > TIA!
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 10:35 PM Tim Wilson <
> > > >> tim_linux at wilson-home.com
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >> My spare PSU didn't have enough 8 pin connectors, so I
> couldn't
> > > >> plug
> > > >> > in
> > > >> > > my
> > > >> > > >> video card.  But, I hooked up everything else, and not long
> > into
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > boot
> > > >> > > >> process (pre-OS), the noise returned.  It is definitely
> coming
> > > from
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > >> speakers.  If I shutdown the PC (but leave the PSU on), the
> > > >> speakers
> > > >> > > stay
> > > >> > > >> powered, but no noise.  I should also say that I can plug the
> > > >> speakers
> > > >> > > into
> > > >> > > >> a USB battery and again, no noise.  And the audio comes from
> a
> > > >> > > connector on
> > > >> > > >> the back of a monitor.  So whatever input is selected on the
> > > >> monitor,
> > > >> > is
> > > >> > > >> where the audio comes from.  But the noise stays regardless
> of
> > > the
> > > >> > input
> > > >> > > >> selected, if the speaker power cable is plugged into my PC.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Would purchasing an add-on USB card fix the issue, or do you
> > > think
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > >> noise would follow?  Or should I just bite the bullet and
> buy a
> > > new
> > > >> > MB?
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Now I'm having another problem.  When it is on my desk and
> > open,
> > > I
> > > >> can
> > > >> > > get
> > > >> > > >> the LEDs to work.  But on the floor, the LEDs are off.  I'm
> > sure
> > > >> it's
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > > >> power issue.  There's a power cable that runs from an ATA
> power
> > > >> > > connector
> > > >> > > >> to a board that controls the LEDs. I think one of the
> > connectors
> > > >> came
> > > >> > > loose.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Did I say I wish I hadn't bought this thing?  I got scared
> off
> > > from
> > > >> > > >> assembling my own since it had been years since I built my
> last
> > > >> one.
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > > >> might have to do that after all.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 2:56 PM L. V. Lammert <
> lvl at omnitec.net
> > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, David Champion wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>> I have a PC power supply tester that give you a reading on
> > all
> > > of
> > > >> > > >>> thevoltages. Also have a multimeter, and we have an o-scope
> > (I'm
> > > >> not
> > > >> > > >>> qualifiedto run but others are) at Area515.
> > > >> > > >>> Would it not be simpler to just order a new PSU? At a cost
> of
> > > >> $40, ..
> > > >> > > your
> > > >> > > >>> time value would be WELL above that - we keep two or three
> on
> > > the
> > > >> > shelf
> > > >> > > >>> at all times.
> > > >> > > >>>        Lee
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