[Cialug] Death of Winblows?

[Dave Hala]

Personally, the bloatware is a reason *not* to buy an HP laptop vs a Dell
laptop.  While they both have bloatware, they go the extra mile on the HP.
 The HP's are usually about a $100.00 cheaper than the Dells, but I'd
rather spend the extra $100.00 instead of spending the time with the clean
up.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:35 AM jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:

> the bloatware on my latest machine from $store was Windows 10.  it
> ran, which was nice since running VS2019 was a requirement for that job.  i
> got paid.  i was happy  :-)
>
> next time, win vm on linux machine, though, but honestly it's a PITA to
> task switch around in linux (win vm (vpn to work (rdp to remote desktop
> (outlook, teams, putty, etc.))))
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 10:10 PM Jared Brees <fromj2sitsme at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > It's not really a complicated platform to the end-user. If you're running
> > VMs you're already a ways ahead of the average user.
> >
> > The average end-user buys a machine from $store and runs through OOBE. If
> > the computer works, they're happy; if it doesn't, they're not. Generally
> > don't even care about $OEM's bloatware if it doesn't get in their way.
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of Brett Neese <
> > brneese at brneese.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 17:00
> > To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Cialug] Death of Winblows?
> >
> > Nah, TPMs are good things and actually make the platform simpler and more
> > secure. The fact that they’re now required is a good call IMO.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 4:58 PM L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021, Brett Neese wrote:
> > >
> > > > As Scott said, you can use a virtual TPM, if your hypervisor supports
> > > it. Ihave Windows 11 running on a ARM Mac.
> > > >
> > > Yeah, .. but I was hoping more it would be enough to drive users away
> > from
> > > such a complicated platform.
> > >
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