[Cialug] Are they OK?

[Scott Yates]

Even when it's not DNS....  It's DNS..  part deux:

The working theory based on accounts from supposed employees is that the
tools they use to push routing changes are also dependent on DNS and
specific routes for auth and access, so the bgp config changes they pushed
locked them out of being able to revert


On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 7:40 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Appears to be back. You may return to  your usual social media antics.
>
> -dc
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 7:35 PM Brett Neese <brneese at brneese.com> wrote:
>
> > Return to monkee. It’s our only hope.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:12 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How about uucp bang path email addresses?
> > >
> > > -dc
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:10 PM Brett Neese <brneese at brneese.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree with @foone: DNS is a failed experiment we need to go back to
> > the
> > > > days when Elizabeth Feinler personally managed the list of computers
> on
> > > the
> > > > internet.
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/foone/status/1445111523186122755?s=21
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:35 PM <chris at bynw.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I saw this on Twitter. The source says it's from a deleted FB
> > employee
> > > > > reddit account.
> > > > >
> > > > > "As many of you know, DNS for FB services has been affected and
> this
> > is
> > > > > likely a sympton of the actual issue, and that's that BGP peering
> > with
> > > > > Facebook peering routers has gone down , very likely due to a
> > > > > configuration change that went into effect shorty before the
> outages
> > > > > happened.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are people now trying to gain access to the peering routers
> to
> > > > > implement fixes, but the people with physical access is separate
> from
> > > > > the people with knowledge of how to actually authenticate to the
> > > systems
> > > > > and people who know what to _actually do_, so there is now a
> > logistical
> > > > > thing with getting all that knowledge unified."
> > > > >
> > > > > chris
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2021-10-04 14:25, David Champion wrote:
> > > > > > See, it's not always DNS... sometimes it's BGP. Which breaks the
> > DNS.
> > > > > > Damn,
> > > > > > it's always DNS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -dc
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:06 PM Brett Neese <brneese at brneese.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> "Everything I do breaks"
> > > > > >> <
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://techcrunch.com/2012/09/11/the-ceo-of-facebook-still-codes-on-the-side-but-tends-to-break-things/
> > > > > >> >-
> > > > > >> Mark Zuckerberg, 2012
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> This is why we shouldn't let Mark push to prod.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Brett Neese
> > > > > >> 563-210-3459
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:28 PM Scott Yates <
> Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Ya, apparently some think it is a BGP routing issue, and they
> > > can't
> > > > > fix
> > > > > >> it
> > > > > >> > till they can physically access those servers.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:26 PM kristau <
> kristau at protonmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Looks like their .onion link is also down:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> facebookwkhpilnemxj7asaniu7vnjjbiltxjqhye3mhbshg7kx5tfyd.onion
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > So it might be more than "just DNS" as some have speculated?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Monday, October 4th, 2021 at 1:09 PM, David Champion <
> > > > > >> > > dchamp1337 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > > Has anyone checked in with our friends those big warehouse
> > > > lookin'
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > buildings in Altoona to see if they're doing OK? Maybe we
> > > should
> > > > > >> send a
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > care package with coffee and / or hard liquor?
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > -dc
> > > > > >> > > >
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