[Cialug] facebook

[Matt]

s/sheets of people/sheets of paper/

-- Matt (N0BOX)

On 3/5/2020 12:59 PM, Matt wrote:
>
> I'm sorry that you find yourself in a situation like this, I I support 
> your need to vent your frustrations, but I don't think it's a good 
> idea to vent your political frustrations on the list... particularly 
> during an election season.  As for the technology firms having a bias 
> against disabled people, that doesn't really have anything to do with 
> Linux.  If you want help from people on the list trying to find a job 
> in IT, I am sure there are plenty of people who would be willing to 
> try to help you not only narrow down where you might be able to find a 
> workplace that would be willing to meet your needs, but also help you 
> find ways to work around your problems more efficiently.  You might be 
> able to demonstrate how you have come up with ways to improve your 
> productivity in an interview, and having done so might also show the 
> prospective employer how they might be able to easily offer other ways 
> to help overcome your disability, which might allow them to see you as 
> someone who is equally as valuable as someone else with the same skill 
> set, but who is not disabled.
>
> My first recommendation would be to not mention any disabilities 
> until, at the earliest, a face-to-face interview.  If an employer has 
> a giant group of faceless sheets of people who all claim the same job 
> skills and all have similar academic performance, it is that much 
> easier to dump the resumes of people who point out that they are 
> pregnant, disabled, or elderly.  It doesn't matter how illegal it 
> might be to do so, it is simple enough to just say that other people 
> were "more qualified" or that they found and hired someone before they 
> "got to your resume in the stack."  They are required to make 
> accommodations for you under the ADA, but they don't have to make 
> those accommodations until you are hired.  If you can show them in an 
> interview that you are doing your own work to get around your 
> disability, then they might see that as dedication to your career, and 
> with a workforce that is full of apathetic people, that could be a 
> huge plus in their eyes.  Also, working in a datacenter with a TBI 
> rings a lot of alarms in my head when I think of insurance liability.  
> I'm not a doctor, so I don't know whether you are going to be messing 
> with a server one day and black out or have a seizure.  It would be a 
> good idea to have a doctor write you up a statement that details what 
> issues you may or may not have.  If you aren't going to have any 
> physical problems, then that could allay some of those fears.  The 
> people doing the hiring are the type of people who got there because 
> they have a supernatural ability to cover their asses, and it's 
> probably easier to not hire a disabled person and cover their ass 
> versus the ADA than it is to deal with the fallout should the person 
> who told you they are disabled injures him-/herself on the job as a 
> result of their own disability.  Take away any reason to bust out the 
> ass-shield during the interview.
>
> These are all just cynical suggestion from an armchair quarterback, 
> though.  I've never had the opportunity to hire anyone for an IT 
> position, so ask for people to help you off-list.  There are plenty of 
> people on this list who have been in a position to hire people for IT 
> work.  Let's try to keep any mentions of political parties off the list.
>
> -- Matt (N0BOX)
>
>
> On 3/5/2020 11:17 AM, Kyle H wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:11 AM Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Facebook contacted me one or two weeks ago about working at their
>>> datacenter that I live a couple miles from. I went back to college 
>>> in 2011
>>> after my traumatic brain injury in 07. I ended up earning a 4.0gpa, 
>>> Honors,
>>> certifications, etc by 2014. Went into the workforce and found i 
>>> couldn't
>>> keep up with things when I didn't tell anyone I had a tbi and my 
>>> good work
>>> comes with a little extra time, as shown in my school work, but it's 
>>> worth
>>> it. Eventually I ended up drifting between a couple jobs because when I
>>> would finally tell people I had a tbi everything would go south from 
>>> there.
>>> The workforce, especially IT is very discriminatory...
>>> So, I'm back on disability now. I responded to the FB email honestally,
>>> saying I had a tbi but went to college post tbi and did super well. 
>>> I would
>>> need some basic accommodations and asked if they wanted to talk 
>>> further. I
>>> didn't have anything to lose if they didn't respond to me, if they 
>>> did then
>>> that would be cool to work at Facebook with a relaxed environment.
>>>
>>> ...haven't heard from them since then. The work world is filed with
>>> discrimination so the Republicans saying that people on benefits 
>>> don't want
>>> to work... We can't because of the damn work environment you 
>>> fostered. It
>>> really pisses me off.
>>>
>> When I talked to them before and didn't mention I had a brain injury, 
>> they
>> offered me a job higher than the pay bracket for the job in question.
>> However I took another job that was Linux system admin instead of 
>> just help
>> desk at another place that paid more.
>>
>> thanks for reading :)
>> have a good day
>>
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