[Cialug] OT: Membership vs. Dues vs List; was Re: Users needed

[Matt]

Yeah, at the time I left Iowa the LUG had a few hundred bucks worth of 
dues in an account and they were trying to come up with a way to blow 
the money.  Not sure if you folks ever managed to spend it or not.  I 
think a party might have been in the works, or something. In any case, 
the LUG has always been accidentally frugal, given that the meeting 
locations are provided and any time food is available it was provided by 
the business that hosted the meeting (I loved the pizza/drinks Right 
Stuf provided).  Generally food was only provided when a local 
restaurant wasn't close-by, anyway.  So yeah, dues-paying is/was kinda 
pointless...

I guess someone would have to put some charter changes up to a vote for 
the last set of dues-paying members to vote on, or maybe give some 
people the option of paying dues to contribute to the vote to change 
it.  You might want to bring it up at the next meeting (or the one after 
if you have to give a certain number of days notice?).

-- Matt (N0BOX)

On 1/29/2020 3:42 PM, Andrew Denner wrote:
> Dues have not been collected in years. We have also not had a regular vote
> in years either. If anyone cares we can always fix either.
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 2:37 PM Matt <matt at itwannabe.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I'm not so sure being a CIALUG member really has any bearing on
>> the mailing list.  I haven't been in Iowa for two or three years, now,
>> but I like to keep up with the list because it has always been really
>> informative and drama-free.  Maybe CIALUG should come up with some list
>> rules separate from the charter, since the list is open to the public
>> and isn't necessarily charter- or membership-bound.
>>
>> I'll see if I can find anything on the mailman signup page regarding rules.
>>
>> -- Matt (N0BOX)
>>
>> On 1/29/2020 3:27 PM, Jeff Chapin wrote:
>>> I think that it's very telling that Brian has not replied on this list,
>> or
>>> the TCLug list (which he CC'ed the original message to) about this.
>>> Considering the fact that he was using the list to plug his business
>> during
>>> regular business hours, 3 hours is plenty of time for him to have seen
>> and
>>> respond. This once again fits with is past behavior -- he tosses his
>>> inappropriate comments out, and then neglects to comment on, or defend
>> them
>>> - this behavior was also pointed out on the TC Lug list.
>>>
>>> It's clear to me that Brian either does not understand, or decided not to
>>> care what is and is not appropriate for these mailing lists, despite
>> being
>>> called out on it. At some point, continuing behavior, despite being asked
>>> to stop amounts to deliberate trolling.
>>>
>>> As for dues, I am not currently a dues paying member -- anyone know how
>>> much dues are? I do not see that on the website -- and where would
>> someone
>>> that is not able to pay in person send the payment?
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:34 PM Rob Cook <rdjcook at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd say this covers it, from the CILUG bylaws:  *Section Two: A member
>>>> shall be expelled from this organization upon recommendation of 50% of
>> the
>>>> Executive Committee and upon a 75% vote of the current full members of
>> this
>>>> organization. *
>>>>
>>>> Furter, has Brian paid his dues for the year? If not: *Section One: A
>>>> person shall be a member of this organization upon paying the yearly
>> dues
>>>> at a regular meeting. Their membership shall last one calendar year. The
>>>> dues shall be set at the second regular meeting of the year by vote of
>> the
>>>> entire organization.*
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:17 PM Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know that we actually have a policy. I just asked the irc/slack
>>>>> channel what people thought. I would not be opposed to either dropping
>>>> the
>>>>> ban hammer, or setting a rule if possible to make him read only.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:08 PM Daniel A. Ramaley <
>>>>> daniel.ramaley at drake.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was actually on my way to look up policies to see if it would be
>>>>>> reasonable to ask if Brian Wood could be removed from the list but
>> then
>>>>>> got distracted. If he's not removed i'll probably add a filter in my
>>>>>> e-mail client.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/29/20 12:51 PM, Matt wrote:
>>>>>>> Everyone else,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What should we be doing about this? We've let it slide for at least 3
>>>>>>> years, so are we going to continue to "be nice" about it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Matt (N0BOX)
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