[Cialug] SELinux

[Jared Brees]

"So, let ME understand - you like documentation written by people that have
not experience and is often wrong?"
That question doesn't answer my question, and also isn't based on assumptions contrary to reality.

Besides the fact this all started with the coloring book... written by Dan Walsh, who apparently has at least three decades of computer experience. http://people.redhat.com/dwalsh/bio.html

As others have asked... at what point do you consider "experience" enough? Linux is only 28 years old this year; how is someone working on computers since before Linux existed, just an unqualified millennial in your eyes?


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From: Cialug <cialug-bounces at cialug.org> on behalf of David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 14:37
To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group <cialug at cialug.org>
Subject: Re: [Cialug] SELinux

Exactly, Brett.

While "experienced" people like myself that have been in the IT business
for 20 or 30 years may have more grey hair... we have to constantly learn
and adapt new things, you can't just rest on what you've always known. Try
keeping up on what's happening in AWS, it changes so fast by the time you
learn one thing, it's already obsoleted by the next feature they've added.

I figure if I haven't learned at least one new piece of tech, a new
feature, etc, today, I've wasted my time. I've been using Linux since about
1994, but the way I use it has changed significantly... many times over.

-dc


On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:29 PM Brett Neese <brneese at brneese.com> wrote:

> Our industry has only existed for a couple decades, versus others which
> have existed for centuries or even thousands of years. Nobody has the
> experience to know how they system they are building should work.
>
> Brett Neese
> 563-210-3459
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 2:25 PM L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 29 Aug 2019, Dave Hala wrote:
> >
> > > No, I'm saying it's in fashion to just blame "millenials" and
> > > crankycrotchety old farts are notorious for it.
> > >
> > No, . you are missing the point entirely! Putting a bunch of programmers
> > together that have NEVER WORKED ON SYSTEM UTILITIES is bad!
> >
> > The experience is required to validate the design; with RH much of the
> > time it is missing entirely as all RH does is thow a bunch of neophyte
> > programmers in a room to build something, with no experience in HOW what
> > they are building is to be used.
> >
> > Millienals program great, I agree! Problem is, they don't have the
> > experience to know HOW the system they are building should work.
> >
> >         Lee
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