[Cialug] Century link fiber

Tue Oct 16 21:35:23 UTC 2018

That's because of Cisco's patented method of innovation through
acquisition. Every new product is something they bought from someone else
then changed the cli to be enough like their other stuff... but never quite
the same.

-dc

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:23 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:

> I used to work on a lot Cisco of routers.  They worked were fine.  Back
> then my complaint  was that the command line interface seemed to be
> slightly different on nearly every model.
>
> :) Dave
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:19 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Some people would consider it a bonus if it isn't Cisco. :)
> >
> > I think Cisco makes great switches. Not really fond of their firewalls.
> >
> > -dc
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:15 PM John Moder <jmoder at crispsolutions.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Its good gear.
> > >
> > > I am partial to the Unfi Line.
> > >
> > > I have about 15 SMB’s clients on it now that I manage.  Their gear has
> > > been incredibly reliable.
> > >
> > > That said, it isn’t Cisco, and doesn’t have the support of
> Cisco/Meraki.
> > > Support is largely in the forums or slack channels.
> > >
> > > As I said, I like the Unifi stuff because of the controller, in
> > particular
> > > I like the cloud key as I can get to it remotely through UBNT’s.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > —-
> > > John L. Moder, II
> > > Owner/President
> > > Crisp Solutions, LLC
> > > jmoder at crispsolutions.net<mailto:jmoder at crispsolutions.net>
> > > (515) 423-0160 Ext. 101
> > > http://www.crispsolutions.net
> > >
> > > On Oct 16, 2018, at 16:09, Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net<mailto:
> > dave at 58ghz.net>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've been a lot freaked out about commodity routers for the last couple
> > of
> > > years and wanted to try something that didn't come out of the commodity
> > > mold.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:06 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:dchamp1337 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Ubiquiti AP's are really nice. I've set up a few of them have never
> > let
> > > me down. We also use them at the Area515 makerspace.
> > >
> > > Haven't used one of their routers yet but have heard good things.
> > >
> > > -dc
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:00 PM Dave Hala <dave at 58ghz.net<mailto:
> > > dave at 58ghz.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just bought an Edge Router X and AP pro for home.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any issues with it?  Anything you really like or dislike?
> > >
> > > :) Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:53 PM Adam Hill <adam at diginc.us<mailto:
> > > adam at diginc.us>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I opted to buy (not rent) the Zyxel C3000 when I signed up, just to
> > > have
> > > something that was a 'supported' modem/router, but I leave it off and
> > > use
> > > my own.  With gigabit fiber into the home they just plug in the
> > > Ethernet
> > > from the fiber box, which there is no added charge for.
> > >
> > > Like Rob I took all the settings out of their modem and programmed them
> > > into my Ubiquiti router.  VLAN 201 + PPPOE user & pass is the gist of
> > > the
> > > settings IIRC.
> > >
> > > If I ever have any issues (I haven't yet) I can plug in their modem and
> > > call up support.  Plus it acts as a backup/spare should I have a
> > > Ubiquiti
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:dchamp1337 at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I used to work for an ISP, and did some evaluation on various modems.
> > > There
> > > can be a lot of difference in the speed you get depending on the
> > > modem
> > > /
> > > router you're using. Some of the DSL modems that CenturyLink supplies
> > > are
> > > really slow.
> > >
> > > I had the best luck with the un-branded Zyxel modems for ADSL / VDSL.
> > > The
> > > versions with the CenturyLink firmware were usually limited the
> > > available
> > > features, and they probably have a back-door on them that CL and who
> > > knows
> > > who else can get into. Also... the default configuration on some of
> > > the
> > > CL
> > > modems does a permanent DHCP reservation for every device that ever
> > > connects to them. If you set one up with a guest wifi at a business,
> > > your
> > > /24 subnet will fill up with reservations real fast.
> > >
> > > My favorite experiment was taking two old modems in bridging mode,
> > > and
> > > strapping them to a mikrotik router with zip ties to make a bonded
> > > modem.
> > > For some reason that one never got out of the lab, but it worked
> > > great.
> > >
> > > -dc
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:39 PM Don Ellis <don.ellis at gmail.com<mailto:
> > > don.ellis at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > When Charter/Spectrum upgraded our network, I was tempted to get my
> > > own
> > > modem, however, since I'm paying for the modem anyway, and they
> > > would
> > > be
> > > responsible for maintenance/repairs/replacement, I elected to get
> > > their
> > > modem.
> > >
> > > There was an optional Router/WiFi unit at extra charge ($5/month).
> > > I
> > > found
> > > a separate unit at MicroCenter. Comparing $5/month with buying my
> > > own
> > > with
> > > a 3 year extended warranty, it looks like the separate piece is
> > > less
> > > expensive in the first three years; any life after that is gravy. I
> > > think
> > > the price with warranty was around $100-$120.
> > >
> > > I have not been impressed with performance or features of
> > > ISP-provided
> > > routers. In more than one instance, I have connected a separate
> > > router/WAP
> > > to the unit provided by the ISP, whether modem or combo. If
> > > successful
> > > at
> > > connecting the separate unit through the ISP's component, I get
> > > more
> > > control over routing and usually a more stable WiFi connection, all
> > > with
> > > more options. I haven't tried connecting to more recent versions of
> > > ISP-provided combo units, but I have [misplace?] confidence that it
> > > can
> > > still be done. You should be able to turn off WiFi and just use
> > > WiFi
> > > on
> > > the
> > > aftermarket router.
> > >
> > > --Don Ellis
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 7:16 PM Rob Cook <rdjcook at gmail.com<mailto:
> > > rdjcook at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > They use a Zyxel C3000Z AIO crappy modem/router. I replaced mine
> > > with a
> > > Ubiquiti Edge Router X.
> > >
> > > On Oct 13, 2018 6:55 PM, "chris rheinherren" <
> > > c.rheinherren at gmail.com<mailto:c.rheinherren at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think Century Link Fiber has the modem gateways with really bad
> > > range
> > > for
> > > the Wifi portion.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 6:51 PM Dan Hockey <icepuck2k at gmail.com
> <mailto:
> > > icepuck2k at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what CL use's for hardware? Is it just a modem
> > > or
> > > is
> > > one
> > > of those crappy all in one modem/routers? When I upgraded to my
> > > 40mbs
> > > dsl
> > > I
> > > tried to explain all I wanted was a plain dsl modem like what
> > > had
> > > before.
> > > they sent me an AIO instead. I never did figure out how to port
> > > forward
> > > through the damn thing.
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