[Cialug] SANs/NASes

Wed May 17 19:22:25 UTC 2017

$550.00 for a Nas device really makes me cringe., You can do a default
Linux install on an extra machine and get NFS and Samba running for
free.   I get that its not a "complete" package, but still....

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:03 PM,  <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you. Does anyone have any old cases/cpus/mobos/ram to donate to my project of building a freenas server? I’m tight on funds right now to build so the project might be poking along until I get some saved up. I will probably get a lot of parts from craigslist, salvage stores like Midwest Electronic Recycling, other suggestions of places. Thanks everyone 😊
>
> From: David Champion
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:53 PM
> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Cialug] SANs/NASes
>
> One of the most reliable FreeNAS servers I built was using a cheap Asus
> mini ITX motherboard with an i3 processor. Just pay attention to the number
> of sata ports on the motherboard.
>
> -dc
>
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:48 PM, <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I most likely will be doing a NAS with as many HDDs as I can cram in
>> there. Now to find salvage/recycled/cheap parts to build a pc, and a bunch
>> of hard drives to stick in it free/cheap 😊
>>
>> From: Scott Yates
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:46 PM
>> To: Central Iowa Linux Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Cialug] SANs/NASes
>>
>> I was surprised as well.  The cable installers did mention that it is
>> fairly common for routers to not be able to keep up with full gigabit
>> speeds.
>>
>> Either way, it was not up to the task.
>>
>> I would seriously recommend finding some used server hardware for a NAS
>> rather than Synology if price is a serious concern.
>>
>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Justin Richeson <neomatrixjr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That's surprising that a quad core (even an atom) had that much trouble
>> > routing network traffic given what most home-use routers are powered by,
>> > though I don't claim to know as much about router architecture...
>> >
>> > Also, the Synology 4-bay is ~$550 on amazon.  Maybe I'm just too stingy,
>> > but that seems awfully steep to me.
>> >
>> > Then again...neither of these are my area of expertise so feel free to
>> > school me if I'm wrong.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I would note that pfSense is amazing, but you will want a fairly beefy
>> > > machine if you are going to be anywhere near gig speeds.  The low power
>> > box
>> > > I had (quad core atom I think?) could not keep up.  I moved to an older
>> > > used Xeon machine in a desktop case.  It is not low power, but it is
>> > plenty
>> > > fast and silent.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Justin Richeson <
>> neomatrixjr at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I too am looking into this a bit...I had thought of doing freeNAS or
>> > > > something similar (need more research).  But I'm also short on
>> > > hardware.  I
>> > > > have a couple 4x3.5 in 2x5.25 bay hot-swap trays, but I'm not sure if
>> > > > they're restrictive at all of what SATA version passes through.... I
>> > was
>> > > > also wondering if there was any low-power consumption boards that
>> might
>> > > be
>> > > > capable of this.  I see some of the NAS-in-a-box solutions but the
>> > prices
>> > > > on them are OUTRAGEOUS.  I can't believe we have $35 quad core
>> > Raspberry
>> > > Pi
>> > > > SBCs but a home NAS box without drives is ~$500!  Yes, I know a PI
>> > would
>> > > be
>> > > > BAD at this, but I can't believe there's no other options for < $100
>> > that
>> > > > would work well for this...at least for the cost of the board.
>> > > >
>> > > > Likewise, I had thought about running a PfSense box and getting
>> better
>> > > APs
>> > > > for wifi vs my TPLink box with DD-WRT that always seems to have
>> issues.
>> > > > But my security brain says router + NAS = NOPE.  Alas...it sounds
>> like
>> > > the
>> > > > much desired and anticipated fiber coming to Waukee will come with a
>> > > > router-as-modem type solution that I'll either have to put in
>> > passthrough
>> > > > mode, or sacrifice network customization.  In addition, I have an
>> MQTT
>> > > > broker currently running on my windows desktop which is also
>> currently
>> > > > hosting my network shares and crashplan backup.  All of which I'd
>> > rather
>> > > > move back to linux...though I opted to shut down my old linux
>> > > > server/desktop (and subsequently sell the hardware) due to excessive
>> > > power
>> > > > consumption since both it and my PC ran 100% of the time.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm trying to keep my eyes out for low-cost, low-power solutions for
>> > some
>> > > > of these tasks at home.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I'd give it all a try. I just need hardware. Currently using my 1tb
>> > on
>> > > > Raid
>> > > > > 5 for next cloud. Just installed zimbra for email and groupware on
>> a
>> > vm
>> > > > > this weekend and just waiting for my static ip. Taking hardware
>> > > > donations!
>> > > > > :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:39 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I would honestly be a little wary of the freenas plugins.  They
>> > tend
>> > > to
>> > > > > not
>> > > > > > upgrade well, and some have stability issues.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:58 PM, L. V. Lammert <
>> lvl at omnitec.net>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Sun, 14 May 2017, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Why not give something like FreeNAS a try? It's not Linux
>> > based
>> > > > but
>> > > > > > > > FreeBSDbut it sounds really cool. It should run on any
>> > relatively
>> > > > > > recent
>> > > > > > > > PChardware, although from what I hear it's happier with the
>> > more
>> > > > > memory
>> > > > > > > > thatyou give it.
>> > > > > > > > > For extra geek cred set up a Ceph cluster in your basement!
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Fine for storage, .. but for usability it's hard to beat
>> > ownCloud
>> > > > or
>> > > > > > > > nextCloud.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > OwnCloud/NextCloud aren't really the same thing as they don't
>> > > manage
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > underlying storage. That said, FreeNAS has a plugin that lets
>> you
>> > > run
>> > > > > > > ownCloud on your FreeNAS box.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Jeff Ollie
>> > > > > > > The majestik møøse is one of the mäni interesting furry animals
>> > in
>> > > > > > Sweden.
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