[Cialug] SANs/NASes

Jim Cole jrcole at gmail.com
Tue May 16 00:59:08 UTC 2017 

2TB Drives:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-Ultrastar-A7K2000-HUA722020ALA331-2TB-32MB-cache-Internal-Hard-Drive-/252847600522?hash=item3adee4338a:g:2GMAAOSwU8hY5oj2&rmvSB=true


>From here:
https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/cheap-hitachi-2tb-drives-data-center-recycle-30-free-shipping.9936/


On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Jim Cole <jrcole at gmail.com> wrote:

> My PFSense Box is a Supermicro: SuperServer 5018A-FTN4
>
> My nas is a bit overkill. It runs Unraid
> Chassis: Supermicro Chassis CSE-836 (16 bay rack server with 2x1200 watt
> power supplies).
> M/B: Supermicro - X10SRH-CLN4F
> CPU: Genuine Intel® CPU 0000 @ 2.00GHz  (this is a 20 core E5 v4 ES chip)
> 32GB of RAM (Samsung DDR4 ECC)
>
> Disks:
> [1:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      HGST HDN724040AL A5E0  /dev/sdb   4.00TB
> [1:0:1:0]    disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sdc   2.00TB
> [1:0:2:0]    disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sde   2.00TB
> [1:0:3:0]    disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sdg   2.00TB
> [1:0:4:0]    disk    ATA      HGST HDN724040AL A5E0  /dev/sdi   4.00TB
> [1:0:5:0]    disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sdj   2.00TB
> [1:0:6:0]    disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sdk   2.00TB
> [1:0:7:0]    disk    ATA      HGST HDN724040AL A5E0  /dev/sdl   4.00TB
> [1:0:8:0]    disk    ATA      HGST HDN724040AL A5E0  /dev/sdm   4.00TB
> [1:0:9:0]    disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sdn   2.00TB
> [1:0:10:0]   disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sdo   2.00TB
> [1:0:11:0]   disk    ATA      HGST HDN724040AL A5E0  /dev/sdp   4.00TB
> [1:0:12:0]   disk    ATA      HGST HDN724040AL A5E0  /dev/sdq   4.00TB
> [1:0:13:0]   disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sdr   2.00TB
> [1:0:14:0]   disk    ATA      Hitachi HUA72302 A840  /dev/sds   2.00TB
> [1:0:15:0]   disk    ATA      HGST HDN724040AL A5E0  /dev/sdt   4.00TB
> [4:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      Samsung SSD 840  DB6Q  /dev/sdd    750GB
> [5:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      WDC WD10JFCX-68N 0A82  /dev/sdf   1.00TB
> [9:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      WDC WD10JFCX-68N 0A82  /dev/sdh   1.00TB
>
> I paid $35/each for the 2TB drives..I have like 5 spares.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Dan Hockey <icepuck2k at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For those curious about Synology have a look at the first eight shows that
>> show up in the following
>>
>> https://twit.tv/search/%22synology%22
>>
>> I have a DSM716+II It was pricey, It was the best I could aford at the
>> time. Once I had it setup along with automatic updates, there's nothing
>> else to mess with. It just works.
>>
>> But that hasn't stopped me from experimenting with another DIY NAS with
>> used hardware.
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Nicholas Olson <
>> nicholas.olson83 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I've been pretty happy with FreeNAS and have been using it for a number
>> of
>> > years now. My current box is an Athlon II Quadcore, 16GB of RAM, on a
>> > MicroATX board in a mid sized case.  Pretty sure everything but the
>> storage
>> > drives I picked up in various Shellshocker deals for a total cost of
>> > ~200$,  I much prefer that to the cost of the dedicated NAS solutions
>> out
>> > there, especially since many still require you to provide storage. For
>> > storage I currently have 5x3TB that creates a volume I have NFS mounted
>> to
>> > my Plex server [virtual]. I also have 3x1TB share that is mounted as a
>> > datastore in VMWare. The downside of the MicroATX is most have limited
>> SATA
>> > ports, so I have two SATA cards in the PCIe slots. When I build a new
>> one,
>> > I'm probably going to look for something with more ports. The system
>> boots
>> > off a thumb drive stuck in the back. ZFS can be memory hungry depending
>> on
>> > the options and use case, but for what I do 16GB has been plenty. Its
>> not
>> > the most elegant solution, but it's served me well.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Justin Richeson <neomatrixjr at gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I too am looking into this a bit...I had thought of doing freeNAS or
>> > > something similar (need more research).  But I'm also short on
>> > hardware.  I
>> > > have a couple 4x3.5 in 2x5.25 bay hot-swap trays, but I'm not sure if
>> > > they're restrictive at all of what SATA version passes through.... I
>> was
>> > > also wondering if there was any low-power consumption boards that
>> might
>> > be
>> > > capable of this.  I see some of the NAS-in-a-box solutions but the
>> prices
>> > > on them are OUTRAGEOUS.  I can't believe we have $35 quad core
>> Raspberry
>> > Pi
>> > > SBCs but a home NAS box without drives is ~$500!  Yes, I know a PI
>> would
>> > be
>> > > BAD at this, but I can't believe there's no other options for < $100
>> that
>> > > would work well for this...at least for the cost of the board.
>> > >
>> > > Likewise, I had thought about running a PfSense box and getting better
>> > APs
>> > > for wifi vs my TPLink box with DD-WRT that always seems to have
>> issues.
>> > > But my security brain says router + NAS = NOPE.  Alas...it sounds like
>> > the
>> > > much desired and anticipated fiber coming to Waukee will come with a
>> > > router-as-modem type solution that I'll either have to put in
>> passthrough
>> > > mode, or sacrifice network customization.  In addition, I have an MQTT
>> > > broker currently running on my windows desktop which is also currently
>> > > hosting my network shares and crashplan backup.  All of which I'd
>> rather
>> > > move back to linux...though I opted to shut down my old linux
>> > > server/desktop (and subsequently sell the hardware) due to excessive
>> > power
>> > > consumption since both it and my PC ran 100% of the time.
>> > >
>> > > I'm trying to keep my eyes out for low-cost, low-power solutions for
>> some
>> > > of these tasks at home.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Kyle H <khamil8686 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'd give it all a try. I just need hardware. Currently using my 1tb
>> on
>> > > Raid
>> > > > 5 for next cloud. Just installed zimbra for email and groupware on
>> a vm
>> > > > this weekend and just waiting for my static ip. Taking hardware
>> > > donations!
>> > > > :)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:39 PM Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I would honestly be a little wary of the freenas plugins.  They
>> tend
>> > to
>> > > > not
>> > > > > upgrade well, and some have stability issues.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:58 PM, L. V. Lammert <lvl at omnitec.net
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Sun, 14 May 2017, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Why not give something like FreeNAS a try? It's not Linux
>> based
>> > > but
>> > > > > > > FreeBSDbut it sounds really cool. It should run on any
>> relatively
>> > > > > recent
>> > > > > > > PChardware, although from what I hear it's happier with the
>> more
>> > > > memory
>> > > > > > > thatyou give it.
>> > > > > > > > For extra geek cred set up a Ceph cluster in your basement!
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Fine for storage, .. but for usability it's hard to beat
>> ownCloud
>> > > or
>> > > > > > > nextCloud.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > OwnCloud/NextCloud aren't really the same thing as they don't
>> > manage
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > underlying storage. That said, FreeNAS has a plugin that lets
>> you
>> > run
>> > > > > > ownCloud on your FreeNAS box.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Jeff Ollie
>> > > > > > The majestik møøse is one of the mäni interesting furry animals
>> in
>> > > > > Sweden.
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