[Cialug] Decent diy nas box

[Scott Yates]

That site looks excellent, thank you!  I am all about the ECC ram as well.


On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org> wrote:

> There's a lot to understand and this is why I tend to NOT push folks
> towards the FreeNAS site for info on ZFS. Understanding it outside of a
> "appliance" is pretty critical if you're running it with actual load. A
> local guy, Matt Breitbach, put together a great site for getting started
> with ZFS. (zfsbuild.com) It's a good resource to better understand some of
> the pieces if you're feeling lost :)  To your question though.... Having
> built out quite a few systems for customers back in the day, I don't recall
> ever building a ZFS box with less than 2g of RAM though. Regular commentary
> about ECC is better, blah blah blah.
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:
>
> > Interesting, Is there a point where ZFS will complain that it does not
> have
> > enough ram?  What will happen if it does run out?  I do not know enough
> > about it, and the more i read, the more i find myself in different rabbit
> > holes.  8)
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > There are better sources for ZFS info than the FreeNAS forums. If
> you're
> > > running ZFS, don't turn on dedup, and you'll be ok with smaller amounts
> > of
> > > RAM. The ZIL will just be smaller. (
> > > https://pthree.org/2012/12/06/zfs-administration-part-iii-
> > > the-zfs-intent-log/
> > > )
> > >
> > > -theron
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ​I think ZFS in general just likes ram.  If you listen to the FreeNAS
> > > guys,
> > > > 16 is bare minimum even without de-duplication, but of course that
> > > depends
> > > > on number of drives, amount of data, etc...​
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:06 AM, David Champion <
> dchamp1337 at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yep, if you want to turn on de-duplication in FreeNAS you'll
> probably
> > > > need
> > > > > more RAM.
> > > > >
> > > > > For a relatively small volume without de-duplication, 8gb would be
> > OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > -dc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Scott Yates <
> Scott at yatesframe.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would mention as well, that FreeNAS really likes ram, so more
> is
> > > > > better.
> > > > > >  8)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Scott Yates <
> Scott at yatesframe.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > These are pretty great deals as well:
> > > > > > > https://unixsurplus.com/products/gpu-server-1u-
> > > > > > > supermicro-3-bay-lff-server?variant=41179135444
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:48 AM, David Champion <
> > > > dchamp1337 at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> I've used an older model of these Dell T series servers for
> > > FreeNAS
> > > > > > >> servers. This one has a quad core xeon and 8gb RAM, has 4 HD
> > bays.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> https://computers.woot.com/offers/dell-poweredge-t30-intel-
> > > > > > >> xeon-mt-server?ref=eml_w_nd_3_tl&ref_=pe_3185080_247127410
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -dc
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