[Cialug] Free Academic License... Not..

[Todd Pierce]

Crew,

Excellent job helping me work through my options.  I couldn't agree more on
the general nature of non-profits wanting you to be a total slave for
pennies.  I forgot to mention that I'm in Tulsa, by the way.  This means
that options are very limited in the for-profit sector (manufacture meth)
as well as in the non-profits (masturbate with bibles).

I'm still contemplating what to do, but in the meantime, their 7,615
pathway/genome database dumps are free (will probably have to write a MySQL
loader), and if I need the diagram of a pathway, I can have the program go
out on the Web and grab it.  The diagrams are truly absurd, by the way.  An
example of one is here
<http://biocyc.org/ECOLI/new-image?type=PATHWAY&object=TCA&detail-level=2&url=http://bioinformatics.ai.sri.com/ptools/ecoli-expr-example.txt&expressiontype=relative&numcolumns=1&column1=18&log=on&class=gene&color=Default&omicsPopups=on>
.

So, just yell if anybody is part of a bioinformatics non-profit.  I'll be
scheming (and coding) here in Tulsa.

-Todd



On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Brett Neese <brneese at brneese.com> wrote:

> Well, then, it seems that joining Area515 and convincing them to fill out
> the appropriate paperwork to get a nonprofit group license, or whatever,
> seems to be your best option. Plus then you don't have to collect cans or
> become Iron Man or Harry Potter, and it's cheaper than taking a college
> course.
>
> And other members can use it, too. I think there are some science nerds in
> that group. Could even teach a workshop if you want.
>
> Brett Neese
> 563-210-3459
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:10 AM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Area515 is an approved 501(c)3 non-profit, though the fact that it's not
> > widely known ... ohnevermind ...
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Brett Neese <brneese at brneese.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Seems like a good reason to get involved with https://area515.org/,
> > > although I don't know if they have their 501(c)3 yet. :-)
> > >
> > > Brett Neese
> > > 563-210-3459
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nah, just volunteer for a non-profit organization in exchange for
> them
> > > > getting you the license.
> > > >
> > > > Lots of nonprofits need IT help.
> > > >
> > > > -Josh
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Todd Pierce <toddcpierce at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Experts on Everything,
> > > > >
> > > > > So, this is barely relevant besides that it's one of these things
> > that
> > > > run
> > > > > on Linux/MySQL, but still, it has some licensing issues that some
> of
> > > you
> > > > > may have run into (and perhaps gotten around).
> > > > >
> > > > > There is this great software called Pathway Tools
> > > > > <http://bioinformatics.ai.sri.com/ptools/> used to access a
> fabulous
> > > > gene
> > > > > and metabolic pathways database called BioCyc <http://biocyc.org/
> >.
> > > The
> > > > > database is free but the Lisp API requires a free academic license.
> > > > >
> > > > > The academic license requires you to be a member of an academic or
> > > > > non-profit organization.  As has worked in the past, I made a case
> > > that I
> > > > > am an independent developer not working in a commercial capacity
> but
> > > the
> > > > > BioCyc guys didn't go for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd hate to give up so easily.  Should I take a class at the local
> > > > > university and con them into using the software?  Find a biology
> > > student
> > > > to
> > > > > help?  Escalate it to higher people at SRI <https://www.sri.com/>
> > who
> > > > make
> > > > > the stuff?  Start a non-profit?  Do you guys know anybody who is
> part
> > > of
> > > > a
> > > > > biology oriented non-profit organization who would share their
> > > software?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Todd
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