[Cialug] Mediacom's pop-up banners

Thu Feb 5 15:50:02 CST 2015

Yeah, but they don't know what you're reading in the paper. Or if you even
read the paper. And when you buy the paper you know there are ads in it.

On Thursday, February 5, 2015, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com> wrote:

> I can definitely see a "business model" around that.
>
> Hey, we will deliver your packages for free if you let us put in a "few"
> advertising flyers!
>
> Newspapers do something like this now with ad-inserts even though you don't
> get a discount on your paper.
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:38 PM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > people would raise a ruckas about opening fedex/ups packages, but it's
> not
> > illegal
> >
> > just imagine a world where private carriers opened your packages and put
> in
> > ads for ginsu knives, car insurance, and jelly of the month
> >
> > warms my heart knowing it's only a matter of time
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not sure I can think of any other case where manipulating and
> > modifying
> > > someone's communications are legal, especially inter-state.
> > >
> > > Try opening a USPS/FedEx/UPS package and adding junk mail sometime, or
> > > tying into a phone call to discuss someone's bill...
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Justin Richeson <neomatrixjr at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ugh...I was thinking (dreading) of switching back to MC (internet
> only)
> > > for
> > > > some savings if we got rid of our DirecTV...but that's just downright
> > > > wrong.  How will the upcoming FCC changes affect this?  It seems like
> > it
> > > > should be criminal to me for them to affect your traffic (the actual
> > data
> > > > going back and forth.) like that.  I swear Mediacom is the WORST
> > company
> > > to
> > > > deal with.  I don't want to go back to them...but internet access is
> > > > freaking expensive (thanks to area monopolies providers always seem
> to
> > > > have).
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > One last note:  As bad as Mediacom can be, I find that persistence
> > pays
> > > > > off.  If they won't fix your issue on the first call, find time to
> > call
> > > > > back.  When I do this I get things fixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sometimes the first person you get is either clueless or lazy.  By
> > > > calling
> > > > > back or asking for a higher "tier" person, you generally get better
> > > > > support.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org
> <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Chris, I will check into that. If not, I will be using a
> > VPN.
> > > > I've
> > > > > > setup a server at Atlantic.net where they have a "go" plan which
> is
> > > > $0.99
> > > > > > per month for a 256MB RAM server. I put that together so that my
> > son
> > > > and
> > > > > > his friends could game without using Himachi, but now maybe the
> > whole
> > > > fam
> > > > > > will use it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way, as a side-note rant regarding Mediacom, I'm really
> > > > irritated
> > > > > by
> > > > > > them and want to change if there was an option. I'd had auto-pay
> on
> > > and
> > > > > > realized as I was looking through my bills in Dec that they'd
> been
> > > > > > over-charging me $30 a month (or $20 depending on how you look at
> > it)
> > > > for
> > > > > > the last 8 months. I called them about it and they refused to do
> > > > anything
> > > > > > accept give me a credit of $60. I would have left them right then
> > and
> > > > > there
> > > > > > except there really is no other choice.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, chris rheinherren <
> > > > > > c.rheinherren at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It can be disabled by tier2 at Mediacom. 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Scott Yates <
> > Scott at yatesframe.com <javascript:;>
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have seen this as well.  Yes, perma-vpn seems like the only
> > > > answer.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > this with my phone, but generally not my home connection.
> > Since
> > > > they
> > > > > > > > raised the soft cap to 2TB/m for my level of service, I have
> > not
> > > > had
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > issue.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Ron Houk <
> houk.ron at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've seen this even though I use Google DNS.
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2015 11:31 AM, "Daniel A. Ramaley" <
> > > > > > daniel.ramaley at drake.edu <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I know. It frustrates me that i'm so close yet the wire
> > > > distance
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > far. Could we set up a high speed wireless connection
> > between
> > > > my
> > > > > > > place
> > > > > > > > > > and the central office? If the wireless antenna were set
> up
> > > on
> > > > my
> > > > > > > roof
> > > > > > > > > > it would only have to be strong enough to pass through 1
> > > tree.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 2015-02-05 at 11:19:41 David Champion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Really sad since you could throw a rock and hit the
> > Central
> > > > > > Office
> > > > > > > > > > > from your house...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -dc
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Daniel A. Ramaley
> > > > > > > > > > > <daniel.ramaley at drake.edu <javascript:;>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mediacom is the only cable internet provider in the
> > area,
> > > > > > right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > > > > actually been thinking of switching to them
> (<shudder>)
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > maximum speed i can get from DSL is just so slow. (No
> > > fault
> > > > > of
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > ISP; the phone wires in my neighborhood are bad.)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously i don't want my ISP mangling my traffic
> > though.
> > > > > > That's
> > > > > > > > > > > > never been a problem with my DSL ISPs. Will i have to
> > set
> > > > up
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > permanent VPN to work around this though if i switch
> to
> > > > > cable?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2015-02-05 at 09:59:59 Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As the month goes on Mediacom will tell me that I'm
> > > > nearing
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > data
> > > > > > > > > > > > > limit (grr) by embedding a banner atop of some
> > > websites.
> > > > It
> > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to do it to SSL websites, but if I go to a
> > non-SSL
> > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > will show up along the top of the page. For
> example,
> > > I've
> > > > > > seen
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > atop my own website at http://www.bearfruit.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > When I check, the domain it is not altered.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Implicitly, this means to me that they're
> > transparently
> > > > > > > proxying
> > > > > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of my non-ssl web traffic through their servers
> which
> > > are
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > re-writing the pages if they see fit. This makes me
> > > > > unhappy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there any other explanation for what is going on
> > > that
> > > > I
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > missing?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It used to be that when I saw this happening it
> meant
> > > my
> > > > > DNS
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > router was not getting set. If I set the DNS
> servers
> > to
> > > > > > OpenDNS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't happen. But I'm pretty sure it's working
> > now,
> > > > > though
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > write this I feel like I should double check that
> > just
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > sure.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > __
> > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel A. Ramaley  |  Network Engineer 2
> > > > > > > > > > > > Drake Technology Services (DTS) | Drake University
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > T: +1 515 271-4540
> > > > > > > > > > > > F: +1 515 271-1938
> > > > > > > > > > > > E: daniel.ramaley at drake.edu <javascript:;>
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