[Cialug] Remedies for Verizon Behaving Badly?

Sun Feb 1 22:48:04 CST 2015

I admire your faith in their apparent good faith efforts, but I've been
around long enough to know that it's only a matter of time before they turn
their backs on whatever damage control PR rhetoric was trotted out today
because it's just too profitable to ignore.

We found another vpn provider that works better with verizon's service. Our
family smart-phones are now on the internet only via vpn.  That should
nullify carrier http traffic manipulation. The trade-offs over vanilla
carrier internet access are battery life and additional cost.

I think I can trust the longer term profit motives of vpn providers--if
they're caught doing what the big carriers are doing, then they go belly
up.  If/when the big carriers are caught misbehaving again, nothing happens
to their bottom line.
 On Feb 1, 2015 7:59 PM, "Matthew Nuzum" <newz at bearfruit.org> wrote:

> Looks like AT&T ended theirs and Verizon is providing an “opt out”.
> Details are yet to be released though.
>
> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/verizon-wireless-to-allow-complete-opt-out-of-mobile-supercookies/
> <
> http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/verizon-wireless-to-allow-complete-opt-out-of-mobile-supercookies/
> >
>
> From the article:
>
> But even if Verizon now allows subscribers to opt-out of having their
> online activities tracked using a unique customer code, that option may not
> satisfy privacy advocates who say consumers are unlikely to understand the
> implications of default tracking. Some say Verizon should have the feature
> turned off by default and require people to voluntarily switch it on.
>
> “What they really should be doing is opt-in,” said Nate Cardozo, a staff
> lawyer at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
>
>
> --
> Matthew Nuzum
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>
>
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>
> > On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org> wrote:
> >
> > I've been keeping my eyes on a good deal. $19 for 3 years, up to 5
> devices definitely qualifies as a good deal. I think it's hilarious how
> they introduce the tool as something to "keep hackers at bay."
> >
> > I guess I'm a bit out of the loop, but has bandwidth gotten so cheap
> that you can make money doing this? Of that $19 I'm sure about 30% is going
> to the retailer/affiliate. That means that if a customer uses more than
> about $0.35 worth of bandwidth per month this is a losing deal for VPN
> Unlimited.
> >
> > I figure one person doing 2GB a month (about what I average on my
> mobile) would use up 4GB of bandwidth (since that is both incoming and
> outgoing for the VPN provider) on 2 devices is 8GB a month. I'm sure a lot
> of people do way more than that since a common case is streaming across
> regions. How much does it take to suck up $0.35?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Denner <linux-list at upeke.com
> <mailto:linux-list at upeke.com>> wrote:
> > I have had luck with VPN Unlimited (https://www.vpnunlimitedapp.com <
> https://www.vpnunlimitedapp.com/>) it is
> > not free, however there is a special running at stack socal right now
> for 3
> > years worth of VPN for $19 (
> >
> https://stacksocial.com/sales/vpn-unlimited-premium-plan-3-years-of-hacker-protection-more
> <
> https://stacksocial.com/sales/vpn-unlimited-premium-plan-3-years-of-hacker-protection-more
> >
> > )
> >
> > I had gotten it for the international connections aspect of the service
> but
> > it puts an end to verizon being verizon.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com
> <mailto:Scott at yatesframe.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > I can verify for certain that PIA does prevent this problem with AT&T.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Ron Houk <houk.ron at gmail.com <mailto:
> houk.ron at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I heard about this on Security Now
> > > https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-479-notes.pdf <
> https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-479-notes.pdf>
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > They're claiming that it is At&T as well as Verizon.  The eff article
> > > says
> > > > that even Straight Talk an mvno of Verizon (and AT&T) is affected.
> I'm
> > > > using Straight Talk on AT&T GSM network and am not (yet) affected.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com
> <mailto:chapinjeff at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Unless something recently changed, PIA works from Verizon phones.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Scott Yates <Scott at yatesframe.com
> <mailto:Scott at yatesframe.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I believe this provider works with Verizon phones:
> > > > > > https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ <
> https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Inexpensive, fast, and allows connecting from computer and phone
> at
> > > > same
> > > > > > time.
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