[Cialug] Home DLP, Anyone?

[Dave Hala]

My day job is fairly dull this time of year, so I guess you could say
those thoughts are born of boredom.

:) Dave

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:25 AM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
> If that was very zen or sarcastic, I get it :-)
>
> I remember an old sci-fi story about a world that was polluted with
> quadrillions of little surveillance lense/transmitter things.  There was no
> way to tell who produced a given lens or even whether one was of civilian
> or commercial origin.  The protagonist struggled with the problem of
> keeping all of them out of his house, meticulously vacuuming, etc.,
> spending a significant portion of his time and resources on the problem.
> In the way that such stories end, he finally gave up and dove into a
> swimming pool sized pile of them.
>
> You raise a good point.  Who's paying you to say such things?  Does it at
> least pay the mortgage?  :-)
>  On May 6, 2014 11:09 AM, "Dave Hala" <dave at 58ghz.net> wrote:
>
>> Try approaching the problem from a different perspective, by asking
>> the question: What If do nothing? or What if I do the same thing as
>> everyone else?
>>
>> (I'm *not* suggesting doing nothing.)
>>
>> :) Dave
>>
>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:57 AM, jim kraai <jimgkraai at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > This email contains fever-induced, half-baked thoughts. Proceed with
>> > caution.
>> >
>> >
>> http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/05/06/1343210/anti-virus-is-dead-but-still-makes-money-says-symantec(uh
>> ,
>> > I guess I'm obligated to say, "Slashdot sux" or something like that)
>> >
>> > The piece says "Meanwhile, other security firms including FireEye,
>> RedSocks
>> > and Imperva are casting doubt on AV, suggesting a focus on data loss
>> > prevention might be better."
>> >
>> > I used to work at a DLP company.
>> >
>> > I came to view DLP is an interesting, but terribly ineffective thing.
>> > Rather, it's effective against terribly naive agents/hackers.
>> >
>> > What's the general consensus here on using DLP as a way to secure home
>> and
>> > small business networks?
>> >
>> > Here's a weird way of looking at it long term:
>> > 1. Passive:  Door locks and windows are passive security. One time cost
>> > plus infrequent replacement.
>> > 2. Active:  Home firewall/DLP/whatever that actively burns Watt/hrs
>> > constantly which must be constantly updated against new threats
>> > 3? Aggressive:  Due to the rapidly increasing rate of change, in the
>> future
>> > will we have to install things that actively, preemptively hunt down
>> > threats, or fund some company or agency that does that for us?
>> >
>> > If the internet ever gets fixed via to aggressive, knee-jerk
>> overreactions,
>> > it might really, really suck.
>> >
>> > I probably need to step away from the keyboard for a bit
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