[Cialug] In-home music - SOLVED

Scott Yates Scott at yatesframe.com
Wed Mar 5 17:04:51 CST 2014 

Theron:  Would you mind sharing the configs for your setup?  I gave up on
dlna as it just did not work with most players (ps3, etc) or required a
crapton of cpu to re-encode on the fly (plex).


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org> wrote:

> The pausing/slow bits of video playback is what really had me working to
> fine tune the ffmpeg settings.  Finally got it down where multi-hour videos
> wouldn't pause and streamed quickly.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org> wrote:
>
> > Nah, I don't care much about video streaming. Most video is just too slow
> > for me to care about enough to actually watch, and for stuff that just
> runs
> > in the background, I'm good with my popcorn hour box as is.
> >
> > -Josh
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Theron Conrey <theron at conrey.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I must have missed the initial thread.  I like your solution and ended
> up
> > > settling on the same protocol, as it worked with my TV, an apple TV
> > > (jailbroken with XBMC), my receiver, an XBOX 360, and a few other UPnP
> > > compatible devices floating around the house.  UPnP is pretty amazing
> at
> > > this, for me the hardest part was finding the server side piece that
> > would
> > > be reliable followed closely by figuring out what codecs worked for
> what
> > > devices.  For audio everything streams fine to the receivers and TVs as
> > > needed.  Server side I tried a number of UPnP/DLNA servers and settled
> > for
> > > things I could control and manage easiest.  I tried plex and a few
> others
> > > but ended up with gmediastreamer (
> > http://www.gnu.org/software/gmediaserver
> > > )
> > > and minidlna (http://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna/).  Both are
> > solid,
> > > but I've been running with my minidlna config for some time.  The only
> > > problem I ran into with simpler servers was a pre serve ffmpeg script
> > that
> > > converts everything to a format that works for all of my video clients.
> >  I
> > > ran into this because the VIZIO tv I've got has a crappy native client.
> > > Have you started playing with video streaming yet?
> > >
> > > -theron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, they're expandable, stable and have a great interface.
> > > >
> > > > They also make it really easy for people to do really stupid things
> > with
> > > > them.  Just had a conversation with a client about how it's probably
> > not
> > > a
> > > > good idea to use their internal secure data store to host an FTP site
> > for
> > > > their clients.
> > > >
> > > > "Just because you can doesn't mean you should."
> > > >
> > > > -Josh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:47 PM, David Champion <dchamp1337 at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I like the Synology NAS boxes, they're pretty slick.
> > > > >
> > > > > They have a ton of optional features... even though I wouldn't use
> a
> > > lot
> > > > of
> > > > > them (i.e. run a Wordpress site on it?).
> > > > >
> > > > > -dc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It was an Amazon Gold Box special.  :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did zero research.  I saw a bluetooth audio receiver for $20
> and
> > > > > thought
> > > > > > "why not?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do not transmit with it, I use it in receive mode only.  It is
> > > > cheaply
> > > > > > made, the instructions are crap, and mine has two buttons labled
> RX
> > > > even
> > > > > > though one of them is TX.  However, for my needs, it works
> > perfectly.
> > > >  I
> > > > > > listened to it for 12 hours yesterday with no drops or
> stuttering.
> > >  The
> > > > > > only problem is when my tablet generates an alert, the sound
> volume
> > > > dips
> > > > > > for half a second.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Josh
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Don Cady <doncady at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ok, why did you choose the Miccus? Do you transmit with it
> also,
> > > was
> > > > it
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > range, or the recommendation of someone?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Josh More <jmore at starmind.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quite some time ago, I had a thread about streaming music in
> > the
> > > > > house.
> > > > > > > > Before that time, I was using LTSP.  It's advantages were
> that
> > it
> > > > > used
> > > > > > > > diskless workstations that did PXE booting so I could play
> > > > everything
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > XMMS with a dedicated interface.  It failed as my music
> > > collection
> > > > > grew
> > > > > > > > larger, I increasingly wanted to spend time on systems that
> > > lacked
> > > > > easy
> > > > > > > GUI
> > > > > > > > access and moved to a house where most of it was connected
> via
> > > > WiFi.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You guys suggested a lot of things, which all failed due to
> > cost,
> > > > > lack
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > shuffle support (I did have a kludgey Perl script that
> > randomized
> > > > > > > > playlists, but, well, kludgey).  Plex was the most promising,
> > > but I
> > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > could get it to index all my files properly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Finally, today, I think I found something that works.  In the
> > > > > interest
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > closing the loop, here's what I'm doing:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My core system is a Synology NAS.  It is running the Media
> > Server
> > > > app
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > configured to index the entire Audio folder.  Each stereo in
> my
> > > > house
> > > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > > Miccus Home RTX bluetooth receiver attached to it. I've
> paired
> > > each
> > > > > > > Miccus
> > > > > > > > to a different Android device.  Each Android device has
> > > BubbleUPnP
> > > > > > > > installed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The app not only allows me to stream from each device to it's
> > > > paired
> > > > > > > > receiver, but also (under limited testing) to any other
> > > BubbleUPnP
> > > > > > > instance
> > > > > > > > on the network.  It gives me shuffle, zero additional fan
> noise
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > room(s) and the ability to control what's going on in every
> > room
> > > in
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > > house. Also, unlike when I tried adding my Windows and OSX
> > > systems
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > mix, there have been no skips at all.  Apparently an NVIDIA
> > > Tegra 3
> > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > Android has more resources than an Intel Core i5-4200U
> running
> > > > > Windows
> > > > > > > > 8.1.  Can't say I'm shocked.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Total cost for the audio side of things is less than $200.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Josh
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